Newbie cycle advice

[BIGSHAQ]

Im am 6 7 about 255-260 in my age 32 I finally got my mind made up. Just had my knee scoped and cartlidge removed. Now im back on my feet and ready to get the goings going on. I got qv deca 300 and sus 500 and 10 mg qv dbol.
1st cycle is this:
Deca 400mg/Sus 500 wk (Low sides, Keep Gains)OR SO IVE READ
40 mg Dbol ed BEGINNING 4 WEEKS
With 4500 TO 6000 CAL DIET 3-4 DAYS HEAVY LIFTING- 1-2 DAYS CARDIO/MMA/Kboxing 2 days off.
For 8 to 12 weeks and clomid for pct WHAT KINDA OF GAINS CAN I REASONABLY EXPECT? Any on please add on with comments or suggestions. next cycle I may switch to androl? to kick off after the time btwn cycles.
Thanks bro's

[BIGSHAQ]

Hello can i get some help my dudes?

[Bouncer]

i would drop the deca and just go with the test. its a first cycle and you wont need much to grow. save the deca for a differnt cycle.

[BIGSHAQ]

So just go with the sus and the dbol? I want to really kick it up a notch but if i can save a couple of bucks and save the dec, cool what is the advantages of dropping the dec?

[BIGSHAQ]

will my growths be the same

[Shibby]

This being your first cycle you will see the most this time compared to any future cycles. With Deca being a longer ester you don't want to have complications from it until you know how your body responds to the test. Also this being your first cycle you might want to start with 20-30mg of dbol then move up each week if you feel it's neccassary. But I don't think you need it at all. This isn't a race by any means. Be patient and wait for the test to kick in. Since you are using sust you will probably see some small effects from the prop ester in it anyways. As for the anadrol I would strongly advise against it ever. That is an expierence user compound and unless you are going to compete in the near future, you don't need to put your body through that at your age. It's impossible to say what kind of gains to expect since everyone is so different. It's really going to come down to your diet. But I havn't known a single person that wasn't happy with gains off there first cycle. They get dissapointed when they put on too much fat or screw up the PCT and loose alot of the gains.

[BIGSHAQ]

So besides the sus what would you run ( I am a not gonna run the deca I just dont feel @ my size and weight the sus will be enough

[Shibby]

I'm wondering why you don't think it will be enough? 500mg/wk is on the high side of a first time dose.

[ROCKETW19]

I just dont feel @ my size and weight the sus will be enough

bro im 243 and i have used steroids many times and all i use is 750mgs test. listen to shibby hes pointing you in the right direction. diet will be the main factor. i just learned that about a year and a half ago.. wish i knew from the start. eat eat eat. you will grow

[BIGSHAQ]

I will def heed your advice thats why i asked. Why I don't think it will be enough? I guess my doubts are from years of slow if no growth with good strength gains I just never get big I wanted to shock my genes. Im listening bros sus and dbol 20mg 1 wk maybe up to 30mg for remaining 3 wks 4 total. save the dec for a lata cycle stay away from the androl. Cycle 8 to 12 weeks?

[BIGSHAQ]

Im leaning to 10 wks depending on how it goes.

[BIGSHAQ]

wait a min what do u mean "at my age" wtf just call me grandpa why dont you
these young whipper snappers talking shit about the old man....lol
thanks for the tips bro's keep them coming

[Shibby]

I personally like a minumum of 12 weeks with long esters, but that's really something you are going to have to decide.

I wasn't calling you old :) But being in your 30's there are some stress factor you need to consider from this point on. You can make your muscle's stronger, but not your organs. ;)

[BIGSHAQ]

Sound advice-thanks again. I want to go 12wks since its the 1st time out giving me a great end to winter and a kick start to spring hopefully I will have no issues with the qv gear I'm hype. I keep you posted I got reg test ethan also but i will keep that for the next cyc also.

[BIGSHAQ]

I know this is early but should I go w/ the HGH btwn cycles to retain growth or pct w/ clomid. I want to keep my gains ive seen the gains keeper tips posted.