Test e, sust, or test cyp.

[coffee-guy]

I agree just sounded to me like you have tried it before and you're not a big fan.

I've used prop before but that was because I was running tren which requires ed/eod injections. Other then that I always stick to test E or cyp.

IMO you don't neccesarily have to have tried everything under the sun to understand the compounds and how they act on someones body. I know that each person has different reactions to certain drugs but there is a general consensus on the "average" results/gains/side effects that someone may have.

if you're still natural, why are you giving people advice like you have experience? c'mon bro...

Case in point to the above...

Let's use CellTech as an example. I have never tried the stuff but I can read the ingredients and can understand what the ingredients are "trying" to accomplish. I can also come to conclusions on how effective I think it may be or not be (not to mention researching other things about the company etc).

I know that you're not trying to be a dick but I think that you may be able to understand why I said what I said by looking at your own psyche and understanding to see where I am coming from.

[6p6]

I'm done here - maybe someone else will come along and help you but it would be foolish to do so...

jeez :hmmm:

[coffee-guy]

You may be natural(some will argue this)

I can see your point clearly on everything except this...

[coffee-guy]

Nothing against you, and to be quite honest with you...This is the 1st time I've seen a post about you being natural...And by reading your posts, you give out advice as if you were NOT natural and HAVE experience gear before...So you tell me fog...Which is it bro?

Don't get all upset about this either, just calling it like I see it.

I have no reason to lie here so...

When I was in HS I bought some mexican grade gear from a buddy and made two injections before my parents found it under my dresser (along with bud hidden behind speaker covers and smokeless tobacco behind my desk drawers etc). Let's just say that was a fun night....

Also, I bought a 12 week cycle of test-e from a friend when I was around 18 or 19 and ran it for 2-3 weeks before a whole world of personal shit came crashing down all around me and my priorities got turned upside down. My buddy was a cool bro so he took the unused amps back at the same value.

In addition, I ran slin (8iu's pwo) for almost 6 months and made incredible gains - about 15-20 pounds of lean mass when all was said and done with - this was about 3 years ago.

Lastly, I have been in or around a gym for most of my life (from 12 and up) since my dad competed at one point and my uncle and his friends were really big into it in the early 90's right after gear was first made illegal. My uncle even owned a gym that my dad helped design etc. When my step-mom died and left my dad single I practically lived at the gym and was exposed to all sorts of fun experiences. Also, I have read and "experienced" many supplements so I am somewhat versed in them as well. I have also tried to learn as much about general dieting as I could since I was pretty young.

If my prior experience makes me not "natural" then it is clearly a misunderstanding on my part and I can always retract those statements. However, if 5 shots of test spread over 4-5 years time, insulin and most recently clen deems me as not "natural" then I suppose that is the case. I will add that those experiences did not get me to where I am today because I lost ALL of it 2-3 years ago and just got back into the gym about the time I joined the board.

After listing all of that I guess I will wait for the verdict - am I a virgin or am I somewhat tainted??? :D

[coffee-guy]

You're just gay :D

Seriously soggy balls - I don't want to portray that I'm natural if the majority of peopel would say that I am not...

[TripleXx]

i no they hurt like a bitch... buh which one is tha worst

Are you still totally clueless Bro, or have you found the answer you were looking for?

[Shibby]

To the extent it is used on the boards I would say you are natural, since you didn't really get any gains from AS. But the slin use is iffy since you have had some chemical enhancement.

[Shibby]

He didn't use it long enough to get the benifits, so I would say he gained it naturally, but he did use the slin. Slin isn't a normal bodybuildy gateway drug :P

[coffee-guy]

Alright - I'm sticking with "natural" for now...

Rado - love the new Avatar bro....