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  • #16
    hate to beat a fallen horse, but do more research...look up PCT...you will need to wait 3 weeks after your last shot, then start clomid

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    • #17
      read, read, read. do a search on clomid or nolvadex/tamoxifen or letro. I just had a thread about a first cycle called the ultimate first cycle. it will be one of the first ones you find. This site is great and there are very knowledgeable and helpful people here but there are going to be some conflicting opinions. the only way to decide whats right for you is to inform yourself and make an educated decision.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by football'n
        so test e at 500mg for 10 weeks then when do i run the clomi?

        Personally when using that length of an ester I like 12 weeks.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by football'n
          so test e at 500mg for 10 weeks then when do i run the clomi?
          Here is an idea, why dont you spend a minute or two reading about this, since you are going to put these chemicals into your body, geez.

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          • #20
            500mg Test E wk, 400mg EQ

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            • #21
              Why is everyone hating on this guy? He is over the age and is just asking for help. Not everyone knows about the search function. Yes, he should have read about the rules but he obviously missed it. Its really not a big deal.

              In my opinion, all you need to grow on your first cycle is 300 mgs a week of cyp or enanth. Either way you'll grow like a weed if your training is on point and your diet is up to par. If you have any questions and dont want to ask for fear of getting flamed, PM me, ill help you out.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by vicmack777
                Why is everyone hating on this guy? He is over the age and is just asking for help. Not everyone knows about the search function. Yes, he should have read about the rules but he obviously missed it. Its really not a big deal.

                In my opinion, all you need to grow on your first cycle is 300 mgs a week of cyp or enanth. Either way you'll grow like a weed if your training is on point and your diet is up to par. If you have any questions and dont want to ask for fear of getting flamed, PM me, ill help you out.

                Bouncer told him in the beginning what should be fine. He didn't quite understand so we told him he should do some more research.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by vicmack777
                  Why is everyone hating on this guy? He is over the age and is just asking for help. Not everyone knows about the search function. Yes, he should have read about the rules but he obviously missed it. Its really not a big deal.

                  In my opinion, all you need to grow on your first cycle is 300 mgs a week of cyp or enanth. Either way you'll grow like a weed if your training is on point and your diet is up to par. If you have any questions and dont want to ask for fear of getting flamed, PM me, ill help you out.
                  I see your point but compared to another board I am on, guys get babied around here. And that site deals with a totally different subject matter that is not nearly as dangerous and not illegal. I'm all for helping people out but more importantly we should be trying to make sure that people understand what they are getting into, even those of us not using gear. The search shouldnt be the rules, its just something you need to know how to use to learn and protect yourself.

                  Nobody said "dont do it", they said "learn so you dont hurt yourself"

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by ROCKILLER
                    I see your point but compared to another board I am on, guys get babied around here. And that site deals with a totally different subject matter that is not nearly as dangerous and not illegal. I'm all for helping people out but more importantly we should be trying to make sure that people understand what they are getting into, even those of us not using gear. The search shouldnt be the rules, its just something you need to know how to use to learn and protect yourself.

                    Nobody said "dont do it", they said "learn so you dont hurt yourself"
                    I am on messageboards that are worse than this also. Whats the point? Bottom line is the kid is here asking questions trying to learn. If he came here asking something about a winny only or a deca only cycle, then direct him to the search button. Other than that, just answer his question. Everyone complains about having idiot juiceheads running all over the place and then when they ask questions we laugh at them and dont answer them.

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