UG labs, in this month's MD

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If you guys get a chance to read the current MD (the one with Branch Warren) on the cover, flip to the article on UG labs, especially newbies, or anyone who doesn't know what UG means. They outline what the operations are like, what USP means, the standards that drug manufacturers are held to, and how UG labs differ, in varying degrees.

My thoughts on it? With UG you're playing with fire, but for the most part, you know what the risks are, you do your homework, learn what you can, and hope for the best. One thing I did not see mentioned in the article is the cost factor; they seem to almost think that -- all things held constant -- if people have a jar of human grade TE and UG TE, most of them pick UG

Interesting read, though

Oh, and if you still like your Mex vet gear, PM Control for his opinion on this, and pick up the MD, there's a huge article in there too on the state of things

[Lmg2701]

I personally think it's pretty silly for them to publish things like that.....It's one thing to read it on boards, it's a whole different thing to publish that in a magazine.....


And then they scratch their heads when UG Labs get busted.......amazing.

[goliath]

with the mexi-vet busts, everyone that i know is switching to UG labs, myself included. i'd rather not run UG gear, but my options are pretty limited these days.

[go Yankees]

I personally think it's pretty silly for them to publish things like that.....It's one thing to read it on boards, it's a whole different thing to publish that in a magazine.....


And then they scratch their heads when UG Labs get busted.......amazing.

I'm not flaming you Lmg...

Have you read the article, by any chance? I can see where you're coming from, you want to keep all talk of such operations quiet. But I saw the article as more of a precautionary bit of advice to those who buy from UG sources. The article really gets into different processes for making stuff, what "home brewing" usually entails in terms of equipment and sanitation

I have a feeling you wouldn't like much of what MD publishes...a lot of it is really raw, a lot of talk about drugs, sources, and stuff like that

In a way, though, I wonder what the point of the article was, maybe to tell us that if you're using UG stuff, there's a chance you're putting some really shady stuff into your body...but I feel like we all know/knew that and signed that waiver a long time ago

[Control]

Making gear is so easy (and cheap) that you'd have to either be really lazy or really stupid to put out some dirty gear. Not to mention, if you were selling dirty gear word would spread FAST. How many posts do you see on the boards where somebody shoots QV and gets test flu or thinks they might have an infection? If you find a source selling some UG gear you've never heard of, do your source checks. If the mods/vets you PM have never heard of it, leave it alone. BTW, I kind of agree with LMG about that article in MD. Bringing attention to the UG labs in a big magazine like that is not cool. I know the feds know about UG gear but thats just putting them under a spotlight. If they wanted to they could really crackdown on UG labs and then it would be nasty vet gear and over-priced human-grade. I don't even like the way some guys ask about specific labs in the open forums. 9 times out of 10 "Abscess Labs" is [email protected] so you're pretty much source-posting.

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Making gear is so easy (and cheap) that you'd have to either be really lazy or really stupid to put out some dirty gear. Not to mention, if you were selling dirty gear word would spread FAST. How many posts do you see on the boards where somebody shoots QV and gets test flu or thinks they might have an infection? If you find a source selling some UG gear you've never heard of, do your source checks. If the mods/vets you PM have never heard of it, leave it alone. BTW, I kind of agree with LMG about that article in MD. Bringing attention to the UG labs in a big magazine like that is not cool. I know the feds know about UG gear but thats just putting them under a spotlight. If they wanted to they could really crackdown on UG labs and then it would be nasty vet gear and over-priced human-grade. I don't even like the way some guys ask about specific labs in the open forums. 9 times out of 10 "Abscess Labs" is [email protected] so you're pretty much source-posting.

fair enough...well said

[Lmg2701]

Making gear is so easy (and cheap) that you'd have to either be really lazy or really stupid to put out some dirty gear. Not to mention, if you were selling dirty gear word would spread FAST. How many posts do you see on the boards where somebody shoots QV and gets test flu or thinks they might have an infection? If you find a source selling some UG gear you've never heard of, do your source checks. If the mods/vets you PM have never heard of it, leave it alone. BTW, I kind of agree with LMG about that article in MD. Bringing attention to the UG labs in a big magazine like that is not cool. I know the feds know about UG gear but thats just putting them under a spotlight. If they wanted to they could really crackdown on UG labs and then it would be nasty vet gear and over-priced human-grade. I don't even like the way some guys ask about specific labs in the open forums. 9 times out of 10 "Abscess Labs" is [email protected] so you're pretty much source-posting.

Hence my point. Thanks Control, that's what I was talking about.


Word does spread fast and the entire process to make anabolics is not very tedious and also not very difficult to keep clean (if you are educated to some degree and if it is not illegal in your country). If it were don't you think 1,000's of people would have major side effects when they make their own tren.

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Lmg and Control, do you guys read MD? If so, have you noticed that they have less of an edge nowadays? A few years ago they had in-depth profiles on individual drugs and cycle information and advice. Now there's still a lot of stuff you'd normally just find on boards, but Palumbo is still giving out gear advice in his column

I dunno...I definitely see what you guys are saying though, but part of me is still a little thankful for the wake-up call the article gave us (or me, at least) about UG gear. I remember the post where someone asked about a specific brand name, and someone said it was "UG," and he asked for some "insight," and Bouncer replied: "here's your insight: it could have been made in a fucking toilet...how's that for insight?"

But yeah, looking at the article in light of what you guys said, what is underground should stay underground, and if MD wants serious cred among users, it should respect little conventions like that

[Lmg2701]

Plain and simple, if it's not human grade you don't know what you are using; however, with that being said we all know that there are many "brands" that are not labeled "human grade." In these such cases it should be understood that you are taking a risk but it is somewhat a conservative risk. If a product is labeled as bad or harmful or dirty or whatever else you want to call it, you can bet that it will be bashed on each and every board and thus that particular brand's name will be ruined.