8 weeks post cycle Gyno problem(yes i know GYNO AGAIN?)

[#1 Draft Pick]

Hey guys I finished my first cycle 8 weeks ago and now have major gyno developed. I was not able to do any PCT because during my cycle I moved in with my nosey girlfriend who is against any use of gear. Whenever I ordered anything relating to gear she would toss it out before I got home. Now I have major gyno development, to say I have man boobs is an understatement!! I am now in a position where I have to order stuff to a buddies house in order to receive it.

My question is eventhough it has been 8 weeks since my last injection is it possible to reverse the gyno growth now that its developed so much? I did a couple searches and came up with tamox, clomid, nolva, and raxolifen. To you veterans on the board which one of these would suit my situation best to reverse the growth now that its already here? I had some pubescent gyno to start with and now I am even worst. Please any advice on which would reverse the growth will be greatly appreciated!

[coffee-guy]

There's not much you can do now except surgery bro - smack your girlfriend for doing this to you - then explain to her why you smacked her - I'm sure she will understand after she realizes what she's done to your body...

[hitmansb]

I'm not even going to get into dealing with the gyno...I'm going to address the bigger issue that your post brings up:

If you couldn't make this girl understand that the PCT items you ordered were NOT steroids, rather that they were items that would 'help you come off of steroids', and that there would be serious concequences to your health by not taking them....then.

a)she's an idiot
b)you're an idiot
c)you're both idiots

Sorry if that comes off harsh, but either a, b, or c is true.

I hope the other newbies on the site read this thread and learn the absolute importance of doing proper PCT, and not letting ANYTHING stand in the way of doing a cycle or PCT properly. There are concequences when you mess up.

[#1 Draft Pick]

Wow I knew I was going to get flamed for this post but not so bad from a "moderator". HITMANSB do your job and moderate posts and leave the flaming to the rest of the guys. I have been on many message boards and have never seen a moderator burn someone for a question instead of trying to help. You must have missed the lesson by your parents so let me be your father for a minute "if you don't have anything positive to say then don't say anything at all"!!! Or maybe your just having roid rage and you had to vent on someone??

[Chadd77]

Wow I knew I was going to get flamed for this post but not so bad from a "moderator". HITMANSB do your job and moderate posts and leave the flaming to the rest of the guys. I have been on many message boards and have never seen a moderator burn someone for a question instead of trying to help. You must have missed the lesson by your parents so let me be your father for a minute "if you don't have anything positive to say then don't say anything at all"!!! Or maybe your just having roid rage and you had to vent on someone??

Maybe he came across as being harsh but the point is... PCT is a must. You should have explained to your girl that it is a must if she wants you to stop using.

Now to answer your question. You can try to run nolva/letro to see if this reverses your gyno but I would bet that surgery is the only way to get rid of it. I heard people say that the nolva/letro helps to but never actually knew anyone that it worked for. Good luck.

[meat12]

Not trying to flame or anything but I'd say if you educated yourself enough to explain it properly to your girlfriend that you would not have this problem. This is a clear case of not researching before going out and putting foreign chemicals in your body. As for myself before any cycle I've always made sure I had everything needed before hand. Hopefully it isn't too bad, good luck if surgery is needed.

[meat12]

Or maybe your just having roid rage and you had to vent on someone??

:rolleyes:

[hitmansb]

Like I said, Draft Pick....it may seem harsh at first, but it's the God's honest truth. Do you have ANY IDEA how many times we as moderators have spelled out that you NEVER do a cycle without PCT???? For that matter, I can't even count the number of times moderators suggest not starting your cycle without having IN HAND:

a) All components of the cycle from start to finish AND
b) Everything needed for PCT

It gets a little ridiculous after awhile....so many people jump into cycles when they clearly have not done the homework necessary. And there's no excuse for it, with boards like this one in existence. I can think back to my first cycle...reliable information was hard to come by. In spite of that tho, I bought MuscleMedia magazines and ordered myself a steroid handbook and studied up for months before I ran my first cycle. Instinctively, it was obvious that there is a difference between using and abusing these particular medications...just like any other medications. It bothers me that so many people seem to take things lightly. That's why I cracked you on the knuckles, so to speak.

Now, as for your problem, your best bet now is to starve the tissue down by taking your estrogen level pretty much down to zero. Letrozole at 1.25mg per day for 6 weeks or so should accomplish this better than anything else, but don't be surprised if you still have hard bumps or 'discs' behind the nipples, which can only be removed by surgery. These will not be noticeable really in most cases, but you will know they are there. But letro will just prevent new estrogen from being formed, so like Rado said, you should begin taking nolva immediately to get relief right away from estrogen already existing in your system until it is eliminated. Besides, you need the nolva to help your system recover since you never did PCT.

Now, there is a flip side to this: using letrozole will devastate your lipid profile temporarily, and your sex drive will be zero once your estrogen level plummets. This is the price you have to pay for awhile tho if you want that breast tissue to reduce. See what I mean about concequences? That's why I 'lit you up' so to speak, I really want to drive home how important it is to DO YOUR HOMEWORK....and if a few newbs take that lesson to heart, then I've accomplished what I hoped to with that first response.

P.S. I'm not 'roid raging' because I'm off-cycle now, doing PROPER PCT....a regimen I've posted on here several times....can easily be found with a search.

[#1 Draft Pick]

Hey HITMANSB thanks for the advice I know I f***ed up and now I have learned my lesson like you said I hope other newbies learn from my mistake. Thanks again for the advice and if I decide to run another cycle I will definetly do more research than what my supplier told me?? Sorry about my reaction and thanks again for the advice everyone!