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    i read rippedsuckers post an after along time ,it time to put this out there.an after a year1/2 imstill tryin to decide to do my first cycle witch would be a very light one!my prob. is that im on anxiety an depresion meds.the meds. are klonpin 6mg,zoloft 100mg ed.an im pretty sure these meds are hertin my workouts an recovery.im 32, 5`11, 170 12%bf .id app.any input,commets,exp.ect!! (ready to get flamed about this but its ok i put alot of thinking into it.) thanks!!!!!! an i read alot of rado post an would love to have him chime in on this..
    Last edited by big chris; 01-13-07, 11:43 AM. Reason: typin

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    slow down and type a little slower. kind of hard to read there my man. not sure who "redo" is but if you are talking about rado, he is a dumbass. :)

    1st Question. Why do you think your meds are hurting your workout and recovery?

    2nd Question. What is your diet and training routine like?

    Steroids are not the best choice for someone that has bad anxiety and depression like you do. Let me tell you my friend, there is nothing more depressing then coming off steroids.

    My opinion, your 170lbs at 12% bf, to me that doesn't sound like someone that has their diet and training maxed out.
    Last edited by Bouncer; 01-13-07, 11:54 AM.

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    • #3
      ^you just heard from mosses brother ...it dont get much better than that. take that shit to heart.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by NYCmitch25
        ^you just heard from mosses brother ...it dont get much better than that. take that shit to heart.

        Are you drunk already? :P All your posts this morning have been difficult to decipher. :)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by NYCmitch25
          ^you just heard from mosses brother ...it dont get much better than that. take that shit to heart.
          haha, thanks for the props my NYC brother.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Shibby
            Are you drunk already? :P All your posts this morning have been difficult to decipher. :)
            :laughnew:

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            • #7
              Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
              slow down and type a little slower. kind of hard to read there my man. not sure who "redo" is but if you are talking about rado, he is a dumbass. :)

              1st Question. Why do you think your meds are hurting your workout and recovery?

              2nd Question. What is your diet and training routine like?

              Steroids are not the best choice for someone that has bad anxiety and depression like you do. Let me tell you my friend, there is nothing more depressing then coming off steroids.

              My opinion, your 170lbs at 12% bf, to me that doesn't sound like someone that has their diet and training maxed out.
              as far as my training thats what im concernd about these meds r depressents. (an affect on the cn system sure u no this). i feel like im maxin out my workouts,but on some days i dont, so there is a prob. there for sure! if its not 100% its nothin! this is the whole thing im worried about. as far as diet goes i could an will up the cals.an still think about the gear more 4 sure.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by big chris
                as far as my training thats what im concernd about these meds r depressents. (an affect on the cn system sure u no this). i feel like im maxin out my workouts,but on some days i dont, so there is a prob. there for sure! if its not 100% its nothin! this is the whole thing im worried about. as far as diet goes i could an will up the cals.an still think about the gear more 4 sure.

                not all of your workouts are going to feel productive whether your on anti-depressants or not,,,we all have bad workouts here and there. this is where determination and consitency come into play.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rado
                  Deps meds will mess you up...You still on them? Are you on AS?
                  yes im still on the meds! they will mess you up 4 sure.no im not on any aas.but thinkin an reaserch the situation for awile now an will continue.

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                  • #10
                    klonopin 2mg 3times ed/zoloft 100mg ed

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rado
                      Damn!!! Your Dr. said it's ok to take Klono with Zoloft at that dose??? Who the hell is your Dr?
                      Yea i no!! 6 mg of klonopin is alot sometime i wounder how i can function but im great. I'v been on them for about 6 years now, over the years the dose
                      has gone up (but 6 years ago my life was a mess) an everything is evening out now. Anxiety an depression runs on my moms side.my plans are to try to cut the dose in half as a goal.the process will take awile i no an i ready.An yes I no what your sayin who the hell is your dr? iv been to pychos an well it hasn't been good wit all the trial an error ov drugs.Im stable with these drugs even at 6mg he has said theres room to work with .with a max does of 20 what iv read (CAN U SAY COMAtoast}I'v been on 6mg for 2 years now an ready to bring it down like i said!But on the flip side iv worked out all my life an 2 1/2 strictly ,an hope everything goes well an do a cycle ov test within 12 to 18 months from now.I guess ill c how things go for now.an cont. to read,an read!

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                        One thing to think about big chris is your liver and kidney function. Im sure your liver enzymes are already raised because of the dep/anxiety meds adding in steroids will add even more strain.

                        also, if your goal is to cut your dose in half, that is great, but i wouldn't do it while adding in steroids. steroids have a well known effect on the brain. anxiety and stress are a side effect for many people. really think if you want to go through that. also think about when you have to come off. think of the depression that will start from that. i really cannot reccomend steroids to you and feel good about it.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
                          One thing to think about big chris is your liver and kidney function. Im sure your liver enzymes are already raised because of the dep/anxiety meds adding in steroids will add even more strain.

                          also, if your goal is to cut your dose in half, that is great, but i wouldn't do it while adding in steroids. steroids have a well known effect on the brain. anxiety and stress are a side effect for many people. really think if you want to go through that. also think about when you have to come off. think of the depression that will start from that. i really cannot reccomend steroids to you and feel good about it.
                          i agree^ good post !!!!!!thanks for telling me what you think ..lossen pounds is depressing enough.

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