Proviron + Nolvadex = Gyno.. For me at least..

[ROCKETW19]

I have an aching suspicion that i'll get hit with gyno like symptoms again if i do that. :P

But its for the better of the board! lol, I hear ya gyno sucks!

[crossconnect]

I have a theory that might explain this crazy conundrum. When we inject test into our system at a substantial amount, our bodies natural reaction is to increase SHBG to balance out the ratio of hormones in our body. Proviron negates this increase by binding to the SHBG and thereby allowing a large amount of testosterone to remain in an unbounded state and thereby making it more susceptible to aromatize into estrogen. My theory is that when this happens, Novla at a low dose of 10mgs-20mgs is not going to be adequate or strong enough to prevent this increased aromatization. Does that kinda make sense?



Based on my previous experiences, that is not an experiment that I'm willing to endeavor on just yet! :D

This is all very interesting.I dont run nolva during my cycle but as a pct after.As of late i have started running proviron because it frees up plasma test levels in the blood and acts as a mild anti-e also.Maybe it is freeing up the nolva in a similiar way or turning it into a more powerful form of estrogen in the same way it frees up test in the blood.

[ms80]

how do i use letro ive just got it

[ms80]

ive heard 3 defrent ways to take letro .5ml and 2.5ml and 5.0ml wahts the right or doze mater

[ROCKETW19]

ive heard 3 defrent ways to take letro .5ml and 2.5ml and 5.0ml wahts the right or doze mater

first this thread isnt about letro
second are you sure your talking about ML and not MGs ????
I would take it at .5MGs EOD but that is me you might need it ED ????

[Ashop]

That is very strange. I often used the Proviron/Nolva mix before the AI's came along with superior success. Just goes to show,, what works for one,, doesnt always work for another.

[MADO01A]

did u use only test, or stacked with tren/deca/oxy or any progestin aas ?

[Bouncer]

only test.

[taylor26]

exemestane or letro have always worked well for me.

[Mr I]

I'm planning to do Test at 250mg per week and masteron 1ml EDO to every three days so this will presumably bring about the same issue or not. My own thoughts were that with the Masteron in abundance I hopefully wont get much aromatisatio from the test. If it does happen I have either letro or l-dex in stock which hopefully wouldn't contradict the proviron in the same way as nolva the event of. Does this sound logical?

[hitmansb]

I run a much lower dose of nolva when I'm on just to make sure that adex can still do it's job: I do 10mg of nolva ED along with .5mg adex ED, and have never had a problem.

[Mr I]

I run a much lower dose of nolva when I'm on just to make sure that adex can still do it's job: I do 10mg of nolva ED along with .5mg adex ED, and have never had a problem.

What do you mean? why would you need nolva for adex to do its job?

[hitmansb]

What do you mean? why would you need nolva for adex to do its job?

I mean that by taking a lower dose of nolva, the likelihood of it interfering with adex is very low. Remember, Bouncer mentioned that one can reduce the effectiveness of the other....I am simply stating that at the doses I mentioned, I have not found it to be a problem.

[Mr I]

I mean that by taking a lower dose of nolva, the likelihood of it interfering with adex is very low. Remember, Bouncer mentioned that one can reduce the effectiveness of the other....I am simply stating that at the doses I mentioned, I have not found it to be a problem.

ok thanks