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first post, first cycle, first everything. I have been reading this websites forums for awhile know, and finally made a login. I am 27 y/o and have the option of getting sust or prop for my first cycle. just want some simple info on how long should i make the first cycle, and should i use prop over sust? Thinking about prop mostly, and thinking of 150mg eod, just not sure on how long to run. and for pct, should i just do clomid, and have nolva on hand? and do i start pct immediately after the last injection or wait a few days? i want to get the most out of this cycle and see if this is the route i want to go. hcg......necessary? can't really find it...
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IMO i would get a slow acting ester like test E or C this is your first cycle and stickin yourself EOD might not be a good idea. also the MGS would be at 600 witch is just alil on the high side. 400-500mgs a week seems to work good on most some get away with less. you will want nolva with that clomid for PCT. most dont like clomid but it dosnt bother me. if using prop wait 2 days for pct if using sust wait 3 weeks (most will say 2 weeks) -
if i go for test e or c i will have to wait a few more weeks for someone to pull through, which isnt a bad idea, im not in a big hurry, just ready :)Comment
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i hear ya bro but IMO waitin a few more weeks would be worth it. i tryed ED injects with suspension and did not like it at all. i also have done EOD many times not as bad but still didnt like it. its not even a pain thing it just a inconvenience.Originally posted by brohymComment
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By the looks of some of your questions I would wait the few extra weeks and keep reading in the meantime...Originally posted by brohym
As for the length of the cycle I would start off at 12 weeks for your first time around and HCG isn't a must have but it damn sure wouldn't hurt to keep the boys in the barn so you could spring for 500iu's e4d's etc just to be safe....Comment
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get a single ester like cyp or test e and run it at 500 mgs per week for 10 weeks
so what if you have to wait a little longer - better to keep things simpleComment
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Don't do prop yet. Then again if you can handle the sticking then you can handle anything hehe. Test e , keep it simple.Comment
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i did 300mg of test e,12 weeks for first cycle..did without the hcg.
also i only had to use nolva for pct.. used it @40/40/20/20
2 weeks after last shot.good as gold! good luck....Comment
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nice how much did you gain off 300mgs test? i always say 400-500mgs for a first cycle but its good to see people growing off 300mgs.Originally posted by cagedComment
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all said an done i gained 22lbs but i only kept 14solid.
only wish i knew what i no now.Comment
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thanks for all the input guys, will start may 1st and run test e for 10 weeks with nolva afterward, i actually got some hcg and will probably run with that. should i just keep the dosage simple at 500 a week and run it with my test and a little b12?Comment
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yes you can do that although i dont think you will need HCG for that cycle. 10 weeks is fine but if you can try to work it to 12 weeks. good luck.Originally posted by brohymComment
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Definitely go for 12 and if you're upset about the leftovers make it 15 etc - 10 just wet my appetite and I wish I had listened...Originally posted by ROCKETW19Comment
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