want to try steroids

[snowbrdjnky]

so was going to the gym 6 to 7 days a week, but now have cut down to 5 to 4, I was at 5'11 190 and managed to get down to 180, now I want to build myself up a bit more, Iv bin eating 4 times a day, hight carbs and protien, no fast food exe, I want to get bigger gains without working out as much as I have bin, I feel like Im running myself into the ground. Iv bin looking into steroid use just as a little kicker I wana do one cycle then drop it, maby gain 10 more pounds but not much more, Im just lookin for a little feeback, maby some pointers, Iv heard the injection is the way to go, but Iv bin looking into dbol aswell in pill form, thanks

[caged]

worrie about more food.

[Bouncer]

I want to get bigger gains without working out as much

this says it all.. you want the reward but you don't want to work for it.

4 meals is not enough. post exactly what you are eating each day.

[ROCKILLER]

If you arent full ALL the time and your jaw doesnt hurt now and then, you arent eating enough to put on serious weight.

[snowbrdjnky]

its not that I want gains without working per say, but I feel like Im working my ass off for minamle resalts, its bin 5 months of going to the gym 6 times a week, and well Im bigger, but not much Im obviously not doing something right and Im just lookin for some direction, thought I just might cheet a bit and use roids, I dont wana be huge, just a bit bigger, sorry if I effended anyone, the pic is helarious that was posted hehe,

[ROCKILLER]

Do you ever think about how many people just join to annoy the board? Think about what this "person" posted B:slap: Come on...Oh wait; here comes the steroid rage:breakit::breakit::staypuff::staypuff:

ya and some people, like this guy, join because they want help and info. This board is far nicer to new guys than some others. He is the perfect candidate for a guy that needs his diet in order.

[Bouncer]

its not that I want gains without working per say, but I feel like Im working my ass off for minamle resalts, its bin 5 months of going to the gym 6 times a week, and well Im bigger, but not much Im obviously not doing something right and Im just lookin for some direction, thought I just might cheet a bit and use roids, I dont wana be huge, just a bit bigger, sorry if I effended anyone, the pic is helarious that was posted hehe,

like i said bro, 4 meals is not enough to feed your muscles.

post exactly what your diet is.

[sonis9]

SNOW-you are on to something...with the fuel (food) you are giving yourself, there is no way you can train 6 days a week and get positive results. that doesn't mean train less, it means eat more. like bouncer said- post up the diet, and we will point you in the right direction.

[Stonecold54]

actually I am of the mind anything over 3 times a week for the average lifter/genetics is overtraining in the frequency mode. not sure of your volume/intensity but food cannot avert overtraining as they are two different systems...overtraining is hormonal/systemic.

[Bouncer]

actually I am of the mind anything over 3 times a week for the average lifter/genetics is overtraining in the frequency mode. not sure of your volume/intensity but food cannot avert overtraining as they are two different systems...overtraining is hormonal/systemic.

i disagree but i do not discredit your view. everyone responds different and what works for you may not work for me and vice versa.

would you agree though that regardless of training, if you don't eat enough you will not grow?

[Stonecold54]

i disagree but i do not discredit your view. everyone responds different and what works for you may not work for me and vice versa.

would you agree though that regardless of training, if you don't eat enough you will not grow?

yeah I agree with that...I just don't agree with the view that excess food can stave off the affects of overtraining or if overtraining is holding someone back that they can "Eat" their way out of the deficit.

[Bouncer]

I just don't agree with the view that excess food can stave off the affects of overtraining or if overtraining is holding someone back that they can "Eat" their way out of the deficit.

agreed

[Ashop]

this says it all.. you want the reward but you don't want to work for it.

4 meals is not enough. post exactly what you are eating each day.

AAS isnt magic,,,you still have to work HARD to get results.