Anavar and Pro Viron

[Bouncer]

That being said with my diet more consistent, and with the creatine ee, and some san tight I've started to tighten up which is what I wanted.

Yea, but is it the diet, and San tight that is giving you those results or is it the anavar and proviron? :P

[Bouncer]

I had to add in the testoviron depot, its only the light doe one 100mg enanth and 30mg propionate. That pretty much puts my test levels where they should be I supose and works excellent just giving me enough but no more.

i thought the point was to just run anavar and proviron?

[Mr I]

Yea, but is it the diet, and San tight that is giving you those results or is it the anavar and proviron? :P

I'm sure its more to do with the var and proviron:)

[Mr I]

i thought the point was to just run anavar and proviron?

The goal is to achieve a gradual hardening via the anabolic as opposed to androgenic compounds. That sems to be happening but the anabolic compounds did seem to suppress my natural test so I needed to get an androgen level back to at least normal.

I think there is a big diference between doing 500mg test per week and using 130mg, there is no estrogen affects for starters, perhaps down to the proviron but I definately like the feeling.:)

[Bouncer]

The goal is to achieve a gradual hardening via the anabolic as opposed to androgenic compounds. That sems to be happening but the anabolic compounds did seem to suppress my natural test so I needed to get an androgen level back to at least normal.

I think there is a big diference between doing 500mg test per week and using 130mg, there is no estrogen affects for starters, perhaps down to the proviron but I definately like the feeling.:)

when you say that they did seem to suppress your natural test. how do you know? did you get any kind of sides indication low test levels?

[Mr I]

when you say that they did seem to suppress your natural test. how do you know? did you get any kind of sides indication low test levels?

honestly, messed with my libido so that I felt awkward.

[Mr I]

well the initial phase of the course ended up being;

Var 50mg ed
testoviron depot 100's x 1 per week (100 mg enanth, 30mg prop)
25 mg proviron ed
400mg primobolon per week
1 squirt letro ed

then when I'd done 5 weeks I swapped to primobolon for BD Masteron di-propionate(200mg every five days), otherwise the same, 6 or 7 weeks don and about 150 tabs of var to go.

My strength is up, I have light weeks (high rep minimum rest) and then heavy weeks ( 5/6 rep sets w more rest in between), back to my strongest range.

I've definitely hardened some, look leaner. Its been a good course

[Bouncer]

well the initial phase of the course ended up being;

Var 50mg ed
testoviron depot 100's x 1 per week (100 mg enanth, 30mg prop)
25 mg proviron ed
400mg primobolon per week
1 squirt letro ed

then when I'd done 5 weeks I swapped to primobolon for BD Masteron di-propionate(200mg every five days), otherwise the same, 6 or 7 weeks don and about 150 tabs of var to go.

My strength is up, I have light weeks (high rep minimum rest) and then heavy weeks ( 5/6 rep sets w more rest in between), back to my strongest range.

I've definitely hardened some, look leaner. Its been a good course

compare your first post in this thread to this one. lol. changed just a bit. :D

question, were you getting gyno from that cycle? just wondering why the jump to letro?

[Mr I]

yeah I know the ingredients sort of expanded hehe.

I've had a sort of puffiness and some gristle thats built up over years bro, no it wasn't from this cycle. I got some letro just as an alternative to Nolva and I've been really impressed, its prety much all gone