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Using dbol for 6 weeks. (Test enanthate and dbol cycle.)
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well lets be clear also, their are dangers and once you go past a certain point your liver wont regenerate.Originally posted by barbender View PostThis is true. I had my liver enzymes checked while taking 50mg/day anadrol and was at something like 90 ast and 150 alt. The next check about 3 months later they were back to normal. Good ol liver with the regeneragtion
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This is true. I had my liver enzymes checked while taking 50mg/day anadrol and was at something like 90 ast and 150 alt. The next check about 3 months later they were back to normal. Good ol liver with the regeneragtion
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yea, i have seen people blood work after using dbol or winny for months. they had elevated liver enzymes but nothing really worrying.Originally posted by NYCmitch25 View Post^i agree
I was reading something a while back comparing a drink to oral's (a beer or glass of wine-average drinker) and surprisingly it had far less of a negative impact. moderation is key
i seem to run into a lot of ppl @ they gym who run dbol only cycles.
i think we need to be more concerned with the kidneys then the liver. all the pros that have retired due to problems were from the kidneys.
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^i agree
I was reading something a while back comparing a drink to oral's (a beer or glass of wine-average drinker) and surprisingly it had far less of a negative impact. moderation is key
i seem to run into a lot of ppl @ they gym who run dbol only cycles.
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i think the dangers to the liver have been overstated a bit. not saying that orals wont harm you liver if used for extended periods, just saying that it has been exaggerated a bit. i also think things like milk thistle help only a very small % if any at all.Originally posted by barbender View PostIf you are going to stay on 6 weeks I would add in something to help protect your liver. I have used milk thistle. My trusty doc that I confide in told me that would help.
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If you are going to stay on 6 weeks I would add in something to help protect your liver. I have used milk thistle. My trusty doc that I confide in told me that would help.
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i do see what you are saying. but at the same time, nothing blows you up and makes you stronger quicker then orals like dbol, anadrol etc.Originally posted by radoWell true...I've just never understood why take orals? And hear me out for a second;
Most people these days do AS for what reason? Mostly to get big, right?
This can be done with injectables for the most part.
Tren=Strength, Size and loss of fat
Prop=Same as above...Not to mention better libido
Var=Slow but nice steady gains of hardening of the muscle.
I'm not saying other AS should not be mentioned...What I mean is that unless you're going to compete; stick with the basics; right?
Do you see where I'm going with this...Without taking 30mns to type more shit:)
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i wouldn't say its a waste by any means. lots and lots of muscle around the world has been built in part by dbol. Arnold for example lived on it. it definitly has its place.Originally posted by radoWhich is why I think it's a waste....(dbol)...I know it has great potential for a quick jump in strength and size...but it's mostly water and why go through that...I guess orals to me(except for var)are nothing more than stress to the liver; for the most part that is...
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started my cycle. going to run the dbol for 4 weeks. will keep you guys updated.
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4 weeks + the only sides i got was hyper and crazy lower back pumps,
keep your diet clean to help with the bloat
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