Deca concerns and stack advice

[TheReelOnes]

I have noticed many of you include Deca in your mix. I have quite a supply of this but am weary of using it due to the dreaded "deca dick" I have read about.



I just started a clycle last week but currently using only 500 mg of Sust. per week. I have at my disposal the following:

1 10ml bottle of 200mg/ml of Deca
12 1 ml amps of 50mg/ml of Deca
38 1ml amps of 250mg/ml Testoviron Depot(enthanate)
60 capsules 40mg each of Testosterone Undecanoate
24 1ml amps of Sustanon 250
1.5 30ml bottles of Winstrol(stanazolol)

On the way (hopefully) is a bunch of Equipoise and Proviron.

Questions:
1. Will I get any benefit from 50mg/week of Deca in my cycle?
2. Since the enthanate is such a long lasting test will recovery be difficult?
3. How would you design the remainder of my cycle if your goal is to moderately bulk and seriously cut?
4. The past two cycles I have done, during my PCT my Libido was non existent(lasts about 1 to 2 months then all is fine). Given, that will the deca complicate or extend that problem?

Lastly, any other CONSTRUCTIVE comments will be appreciated.


THanks in advance.

[ROCKETW19]

I have noticed many of you include Deca in your mix. I have quite a supply of this but am weary of using it due to the dreaded "deca dick" I have read about.



I just started a clycle last week but currently using only 500 mg of Sust. per week. I have at my disposal the following:

1 10ml bottle of 200mg/ml of Deca
12 1 ml amps of 50mg/ml of Deca
38 1ml amps of 250mg/ml Testoviron Depot(enthanate)
60 capsules 40mg each of Testosterone Undecanoate
24 1ml amps of Sustanon 250
1.5 30ml bottles of Winstrol(stanazolol)

On the way (hopefully) is a bunch of Equipoise and Proviron.

Questions:
1. Will I get any benefit from 50mg/week of Deca in my cycle?
2. Since the enthanate is such a long lasting test will recovery be difficult?
3. How would you design the remainder of my cycle if your goal is to moderately bulk and seriously cut?
4. The past two cycles I have done, during my PCT my Libido was non existent(lasts about 1 to 2 months then all is fine). Given, that will the deca complicate or extend that problem?

Lastly, any other CONSTRUCTIVE comments will be appreciated.


THanks in advance.

Bro I love helpin with this kinda stuff but you have so much to look at it makes my head hurt. so untill i can look at it again later Ill help with the first question. NO I dont think 50 mgs deca will do anything try it at 200mgs with your 500mgs test. Im assuming this is not your first cycle. If it is scratch that deca and just run test like you have it.

[TheReelOnes]

No this is my 3rd cycle. I have made moderate gains on both but really looking to have a "last" one and clean the system a bit. Given that, I want to go all out if advisable to do so.

I will pose this question:

How would 500mg of Sust and 250 mg of Test E and 100 MG of deca per week sound? Still cautious about the Deca thing. In addition of my 14 week cycle on week 7 I would like to add equipoise and winstrol to the mix. How does this sound?

[latin22]

No this is my 3rd cycle. I have made moderate gains on both but really looking to have a "last" one and clean the system a bit. Given that, I want to go all out if advisable to do so.

I will pose this question:

How would 500mg of Sust and 250 mg of Test E and 100 MG of deca per week sound? Still cautious about the Deca thing. In addition of my 14 week cycle on week 7 I would like to add equipoise and winstrol to the mix. How does this sound?

I don't think mixing test E and Sus is very wise.I would do what Rocket suggested continue the Sus and add Deca at 200 mgs per week.Cut the cycle back to 12 weeks instead of 14.My opinion I'm sure others will chime in.

[Bouncer]

I have noticed many of you include Deca in your mix. I have quite a supply of this but am weary of using it due to the dreaded "deca dick" I have read about.



I just started a clycle last week but currently using only 500 mg of Sust. per week. I have at my disposal the following:

1 10ml bottle of 200mg/ml of Deca
12 1 ml amps of 50mg/ml of Deca
38 1ml amps of 250mg/ml Testoviron Depot(enthanate)
60 capsules 40mg each of Testosterone Undecanoate
24 1ml amps of Sustanon 250
1.5 30ml bottles of Winstrol(stanazolol)

On the way (hopefully) is a bunch of Equipoise and Proviron.

Questions:
1. Will I get any benefit from 50mg/week of Deca in my cycle?
2. Since the enthanate is such a long lasting test will recovery be difficult?
3. How would you design the remainder of my cycle if your goal is to moderately bulk and seriously cut?
4. The past two cycles I have done, during my PCT my Libido was non existent(lasts about 1 to 2 months then all is fine). Given, that will the deca complicate or extend that problem?

Lastly, any other CONSTRUCTIVE comments will be appreciated.


THanks in advance.

Deca dick will never be a problem as long as you run it with test.

1. 50mg is too low to get much effect from deca.

2. ethanate is what i have always used. it will take longer to recover then say prop but it isnt to bad if you se the prop pct.

3. thats more about diet etc..

4. deca may extend the problem, hard to say.


i would run the test at 500mgs a week, deca at 200mgs, and winstrol at 50 ED for the last 4 weeks.

P.S. throw the Testosterone Undecanoate (andriol) directly in the trash. its a worthless drug.

[Bouncer]

No this is my 3rd cycle. I have made moderate gains on both but really looking to have a "last" one and clean the system a bit. Given that, I want to go all out if advisable to do so.

I will pose this question:

How would 500mg of Sust and 250 mg of Test E and 100 MG of deca per week sound? Still cautious about the Deca thing. In addition of my 14 week cycle on week 7 I would like to add equipoise and winstrol to the mix. How does this sound?

i wouldnt run the sust, to many highs and lows in blood levels with sust. i would run the enathate. 100mg of deca wont do much. deca dick is only a problem when you are not running test.

[Bouncer]

I wanted to help out too...But too much is listed

you can spend hours in the chat forum but you cant help out a guy as a question because to much is listed? come on dude.

[Bouncer]

1. No

2. Not always the case. Proper PCT will help. I would advise to have HCG and take 500iu's E4D...If you don't have it now(which I assume you don't)...Then stick with the clomid.

3. Test/Deca/Winny is not always good either...Let me clarify this; winny and deca...This will only increase your chances of losing hair...I don't get all technical like most do...But winny and deca should not be taken together; running together.

4. If your libido has been in the shits...When was the last time you got blood work done? You may have a natural low test level even while off...If you do, then that needs to be corrected 1st...That's what I did...Otherwise, you'll be screwing yourself up even more.

I personally like prop/tren(ace)/var cycles...you get in and get out sort of speak...You can add some nice lean mass and maintain most of it after the cycle if you do proper pct...But you also have to take into consideration your diet/rest/training here.

You can still do what you want with test/deca/winny...I would run the winny last...I stay away from long acting esthers...Even while I ran tren/prop, my face got bloated...You should of seen a picture of me when I did Enanthate; :woot:

I would not take Deca at 50mgs; waste of $$$...

good post rado.

my reason for running the winny at the end of that deca/test cycle would be to harden up and drop some of that water from the bloating from the test and deca. if you are sensative to hair loss then it might not be such a great idea.

[Ashop]

I have noticed many of you include Deca in your mix. I have quite a supply of this but am weary of using it due to the dreaded "deca dick" I have read about.



I just started a clycle last week but currently using only 500 mg of Sust. per week. I have at my disposal the following:

1 10ml bottle of 200mg/ml of Deca
12 1 ml amps of 50mg/ml of Deca
38 1ml amps of 250mg/ml Testoviron Depot(enthanate)
60 capsules 40mg each of Testosterone Undecanoate
24 1ml amps of Sustanon 250
1.5 30ml bottles of Winstrol(stanazolol)

On the way (hopefully) is a bunch of Equipoise and Proviron.

Questions:
1. Will I get any benefit from 50mg/week of Deca in my cycle?
2. Since the enthanate is such a long lasting test will recovery be difficult?
3. How would you design the remainder of my cycle if your goal is to moderately bulk and seriously cut?
4. The past two cycles I have done, during my PCT my Libido was non existent(lasts about 1 to 2 months then all is fine). Given, that will the deca complicate or extend that problem?

Lastly, any other CONSTRUCTIVE comments will be appreciated.


THanks in advance.

IMO your just wasting the DECA @ 50mg wk unless your a female.

[Stonecold54]

I have used deca and test at the same dosages and never had a problem. if you have proviron coming then that would be an EXCELLENT add to a cycle of test/deca. 100mg per week you would see joint relief and that is about it really (unless you were running that all year and you would definitely see some sort of anabolic gain if you ate well). so if you can get the proviron and run it after your cycle of deca/test ends then that would be great. something like 500mg of whatever test/200mg of deca for 10-14 weeks and then extend maybe the proviron and winny past that to help speed recovery.

[TheReelOnes]

Thanks guys, I will take all of this under advisement. It doesnt appear any of you commented on the Equipoise. Any comments? Not quite sure BOUNCER why you wouldnt mix the test e and the sust. care to expand? In another thread Test E seemed to be taking the lead in favorites. Lastly, how would 750 of sust and 200 of Deca sound? I know more is not always better but have talked with guys at my gym that have been successful at 1000mg/wk sust.

btw........some of you drive me nuts. When I have tried in the past to be brief in my questions you come back and say I didnt give ENOUGH information. Go figure.....

[Bouncer]

Thanks guys, I will take all of this under advisement. It doesnt appear any of you commented on the Equipoise. Any comments? Not quite sure BOUNCER why you wouldnt mix the test e and the sust. care to expand? In another thread Test E seemed to be taking the lead in favorites. Lastly, how would 750 of sust and 200 of Deca sound? I know more is not always better but have talked with guys at my gym that have been successful at 1000mg/wk sust.

btw........some of you drive me nuts. When I have tried in the past to be brief in my questions you come back and say I didnt give ENOUGH information. Go figure.....

sust is test, it doesn't make sense to combine it. sust has a few different esters and enath has 1 ester. i would run 500mg of the test and 200mg of the deca, you dont need to add more until you need it. i have have never run test higher then 500mgs a week. you run a much greater chance of developing side effects at higher doses.

i believe i did comment on the EQ, I said IMO it is not worth it but other may disagree.

dont make things too complicated bro, keep it simple. run the test at 500mgs a week and deca at 200mgs a week.

[TheReelOnes]

BOUNCER....going to take your advice. Guess I can save the Test E for another cycle.

On that note, at 500 test a week and 200 Deca week is this once per week or divided up say 250 on tue and Thur of test and 100 of deca respectively?

Thanks

PS BOUNCER.......guess I am not experienced enough to know when "to need to add more until you need it" In other words how do you know if you need it? Feel free to PM .

[Bouncer]

BOUNCER....going to take your advice. Guess I can save the Test E for another cycle.

On that note, at 500 test a week and 200 Deca week is this once per week or divided up say 250 on tue and Thur of test and 100 of deca respectively?

Thanks

PS BOUNCER.......guess I am not experienced enough to know when "to need to add more until you need it" In other words how do you know if you need it? Feel free to PM .

i would shoot the sust twice a week to keep the blood levels even. so yea, shoot the deca and sust twice per week. i would do it Monday and friday. that is a little more spaced out then tue and thur.

you need to add more when you stop responding. for example, lets say you run your next cycle at the same doses you run this one and you dont gain much weight or get the results you were expecting. that would be a time to raise the dose. this depends on many things, genetics etc.. i know some people running 1200mgs + of test and they look like nothing. i respond to test very well, i can run 250mg a week and people think i am on some major cycle. you have to see what works for you.

[barbender]

IMO if you are looking to cut I wouldn't use the deca. Giving us some stats would help. If you want to use the deca but are scared of the e.d. that comes with it, try a 2:1 ratio of test to deca, i.e. 600/wk test 300/wk deca or whatever. That has worked well for me in the past. I, if I were looking to cut, would run my test with my winny and eat clean. Has worked for me in the past but we are all different.