5th Cycle

[vicmack777]

Alright I have two questions.

My cycle is going to be 12 weeks of test cyp at 300mg per week and Epistane for the first 4 weeks at 20/20/30/30.

My first question is about the test. For the last 3 cycles I have done 400-500 mg/week of test. I havent done anything in over a year. Will I gain off of 300mg a week? I really would like to do the lowest amount I can get away with. Im a believer that everyone does too much but I cant prove that. I just want some different opinions.

My second question is with the epistane. That wouldnt be bad to kick start this cycle, right?

Im 6'0 200. Im not looking to be 230. I would love to KEEP 5-7 lbs when PCT is over on this one. Any advice or opinions?

[Stonecold54]

what is epistane? and if you haven't cycled in a year then yes you can gain off 300. I used to do cycles with GRAMS of test in them and now I only use 300 a week and I love my gains and I am happy with that amount. so yes I think its possible.

[vicmack777]

what is epistane? and if you haven't cycled in a year then yes you can gain off 300. I used to do cycles with GRAMS of test in them and now I only use 300 a week and I love my gains and I am happy with that amount. so yes I think its possible.

Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.

Epistane is a new pro hormone that has similar effects of winny but isnt as harsh on the liver.

[Bouncer]

I dont know much about epistane but i dont know how i feel about a pro hormone in a steroid cycle.

your right about test. just look at the guys from the 70's, they would not have believed todays doses.

people today depend on steroids and diet and training second. those guys used to depend on diet and training and the steroids just gave them a boost. people have it ass backwards these days.

[vicmack777]

I dont know much about epistane but i dont know how i feel about a pro hormone in a steroid cycle.

your right about test. just look at the guys from the 70's, they would not have believed todays doses.

people today depend on steroids and diet and training second. those guys used to depend on diet and training and the steroids just gave them a boost. people have it ass backwards these days.

That was my thinking. Im just curious why you would not run a PH and AAS together. I have used and like Epistane in the past and is found to be much easier on the liver than Winny with similar properties.

[Bouncer]

That was my thinking. Im just curious why you would not run a PH and AAS together. I have used and like Epistane in the past and is found to be much easier on the liver than Winny with similar properties.

because i dont think much of pro hormones.

i would also like to know how you "found it to be much easier on the liver". did you have blood work after a cycle of epistane and also after a cycle of winny. thats really the only way you would be able to tell.

[vicmack777]

because i dont think much of pro hormones.

i would also like to know how you "found it to be much easier on the liver". did you have blood work after a cycle of epistane and also after a cycle of winny. thats really the only way you would be able to tell.

Absolutely. I have had it done but it was a little skewed because I was also on test for 12 weeks.

A lot of people on other boards are taking bloodwork also and having little happen to their liver values.

[coffee-guy]

Ipeople today depend on steroids and diet and training second. those guys used to depend on diet and training and the steroids just gave them a boost. people have it ass backwards these days.

:agree: