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  • #46
    Originally posted by Stonecold54 View Post
    well if you are qualifying as they "hardly respond" they are still responding.
    your just being difficult for the sake of argument. the point is that because nolv and progesterone don't cause a problem with you, doesn't mean it wont with someone else. Ron doesn't change in appearance by using steroids and thus for him, steroids don't really work, that doesn't mean they don't for everyone. some people don't get gyno at all, no matter what the dose. all the same points.

    as for the second question that i didn't quote, i have no idea what you just said. :P

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    • #47
      Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
      Ron Harris is one of them. He hardly responds to steroids. This is a guy that works with top trainers and nutritionist, bust his ass in the gym and looks pretty good for it. But when he goes on cycle he honestly looks no different then when he is natural.

      Same kind of thing goes for Creatine etc..
      Makes sense.I have to take very moderate doses to see decent results,yet i have very little problems(none really)with estrogen.maybe theres a connection.I guess you cant have the best of both worlds.:dunno:










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      • #48
        Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
        Ron Harris is one of them. He hardly responds to steroids. This is a guy that works with top trainers and nutritionist, bust his ass in the gym and looks pretty good for it. But when he goes on cycle he honestly looks no different then when he is natural.

        Same kind of thing goes for Creatine etc..
        who is ron harris:dunno:

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        • #49
          Originally posted by curtus e flush View Post
          who is ron harris:dunno:
          Bump!

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          • #50
            He has written a bunch of articles in MD, has talked about his personal steroid use etc..

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            • #51
              Bouncer, what was your opinion of test and tren, how long have you run it in the end and what were the effects

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              • #52
                still running it. doses very low. 250mg test and 200mg tren every 10 days. low by anyone standards but i respond very well. strength is still increasing. bf% keeps going down, and weight going up. love it.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
                  doses very low. 250mg test and 200mg tren every 10 days.
                  you my friend are fuckin lucky

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
                    still running it. doses very low. 250mg test and 200mg tren every 10 days. low by anyone standards but i respond very well. strength is still increasing. bf% keeps going down, and weight going up. love it.

                    do you alternate like one shot of each avary 5 days or both every ten?

                    are you running anything else with it; gh, AI, serm?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Mr incredible View Post
                      do you alternate like one shot of each avary 5 days or both every ten?

                      are you running anything else with it; gh, AI, serm?
                      yea, one shot every 5 days.

                      no gh. running .4mgs of arimidex ED with it. even at those low doses i get gyno without adex.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
                        yea, one shot every 5 days.

                        no gh. running .4mgs of arimidex ED with it. even at those low doses i get gyno without adex.
                        So you respond well to gear but you also have to deal with the sides like if you were on a mega cycle.
                        I can take 750mgs test E and have no sides at all.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
                          So you respond well to gear but you also have to deal with the sides like if you were on a mega cycle.
                          I can take 750mgs test E and have no sides at all.
                          yup. my sex drive goes into superhero mode and i get aggressive too. just imagine me at 1200mgs of test and 600mgs of tren. lol.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
                            still running it. doses very low. 250mg test and 200mg tren every 10 days. low by anyone standards but i respond very well. strength is still increasing. bf% keeps going down, and weight going up. love it.
                            B -- have to give you much respect on the low amounts -- see to many pushing such high amounts !!

                            things change some when competeing specially nationally but no reason to run such high doses all the time --

                            nice to see !!!

                            oh and i almost forgot
                            :fufool:

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                            • #59
                              ya definitely good to see others working lowest effective does. This cycle interests me but B do you feel the low dose means you can take it for very long periods and do you plan getting any tests done while on.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Mr incredible View Post
                                ya definitely good to see others working lowest effective does. This cycle interests me but B do you feel the low dose means you can take it for very long periods and do you plan getting any tests done while on.
                                not sure i will stay with the low doses. owners of my gym are pushing me hard to compete and wants to see how far i can go with higher doses.

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