Cycle

[franklucas]

Im about to do an 8-10 week cycle of test enanthate and dbol. How much DBOL do you suggest? Also what kind of PCT should I use?

[parabody]

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[coffee-guy]

Im about to do an 8-10 week cycle of test enanthate and dbol. How much DBOL do you suggest? Also what kind of PCT should I use?

Can you provide more information?

[franklucas]

Yeah I am deploying in July to Kuwait with the Air Force. I am only running a 8-10 week cycle based on when my shipment comes in from EB. I have had Gyno in the past thats why I am wondering what kind of PCT I should use this time and how early to start using it. Last cycle I just ran Test E and I feel like I fucked myself over. This time I would like to get more out of this cycle and be in even better shape before I deploy. Im not looking to be a body builder but I would like to add more size and strength without losing much of my speed.

[coffee-guy]

What doses did you previously run that caused you to get gyno and why do you feel you f'd yourself over (do you mean from the gyno standpoint or you didn't see any gains or what)?

I can tell you the "generic" answer now though BUT you should probably tell us more about your last dosage amounts and if you did ANYTHING for pct or nothing at all etc...

Generic:

Run the Test E at 500mg a week for AT LEAST 12 weeks but I would recommend 16 as you'll like the results better IMO.

Run the Dbol at 50mg a day for the first 4 weeks.

Run a low dose of Nolva throughout the cycle - maybe start with 10mg a day and bump it to 20mg if you "need" to but no more than this while on your cycle. I wouldn't normally recommend this but since you're already prone to gyno it's in your best interest unless you tell us something like your last TestE dose was 1000mg a week or something crazy like that.

As for PCT I would tell you to start a Nolva and Clomid combo 2 weeks after your last shot of Test E. I would typically tell you to avoid the Clomid but there is a good chance you never actually recovered from your last cycle so in this case I think you're better safe than sorry trying to get yourself back on track.

2 weeks after....

PCT

Week 1/18
Nolva @ 40mg ed and Clomid @ 100mg ed (jump start your Clomid at 400mg day one and 200mg day two)

Week 2/19
Nolva at 40mg ed and Clomid @ 50mg ed

Week 3/20
Nolva @ 20mg ed and Clomid @ 50mg ed

Week 4/21
Nolva @ 20mg ed

Week 5/22
Nolva @ 20mg ed

Week 6/23
Nolva @ 20mg ed

[Bouncer]

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how about don't reply if you have nothing to offer. if everyone used the search button for everything we would never have any discussion or new ideas.

[Bouncer]

franklucas, first let me say welcome to the board bro.

one thing i can say immediately is that you dont want to run the dbol for the whole 10 week cycle. run it for the first 4 weeks of the cycle to kick it off. dose should be 25-40mgs a day.

i would run the test at no more then 500mgs a week. you really dont need more then that if you are working out and eating correctly.

also, if you got gyno from test alone, you will definitely get it from a test/dbol stack. what you are looking for to block the gyno is not PCT. PCT= Post Cycle Therapy. You need to run something to block the gyno while you are on cycle. i would run either nolvadex or arimidex along with the cycle. both can be found here. Superior-Research.com

the good thing about nolvadex or armidex is that they can also be used for PCT, so you can continue to run them after your cycle is over. both are effective at boosting test levels and getting you back to normal.

[franklucas]

franklucas, first let me say welcome to the board bro.

one thing i can say immediately is that you dont want to run the dbol for the whole 10 week cycle. run it for the first 4 weeks of the cycle to kick it off. dose should be 25-40mgs a day.

i would run the test at no more then 500mgs a week. you really dont need more then that if you are working out and eating correctly.

also, if you got gyno from test alone, you will definitely get it from a test/dbol stack. what you are looking for to block the gyno is not PCT. PCT= Post Cycle Therapy. You need to run something to block the gyno while you are on cycle. i would run either nolvadex or arimidex along with the cycle. both can be found here. Superior-Research.com

the good thing about nolvadex or armidex is that they can also be used for PCT, so you can continue to run them after your cycle is over. both are effective at boosting test levels and getting you back to normal.

Thanks everybody appreciate it.

[franklucas]

What doses did you previously run that caused you to get gyno and why do you feel you f'd yourself over (do you mean from the gyno standpoint or you didn't see any gains or what)?

I can tell you the "generic" answer now though BUT you should probably tell us more about your last dosage amounts and if you did ANYTHING for pct or nothing at all etc...

Generic:

Run the Test E at 500mg a week for AT LEAST 12 weeks but I would recommend 16 as you'll like the results better IMO.

Run the Dbol at 50mg a day for the first 4 weeks.

Run a low dose of Nolva throughout the cycle - maybe start with 10mg a day and bump it to 20mg if you "need" to but no more than this while on your cycle. I wouldn't normally recommend this but since you're already prone to gyno it's in your best interest unless you tell us something like your last TestE dose was 1000mg a week or something crazy like that.

As for PCT I would tell you to start a Nolva and Clomid combo 2 weeks after your last shot of Test E. I would typically tell you to avoid the Clomid but there is a good chance you never actually recovered from your last cycle so in this case I think you're better safe than sorry trying to get yourself back on track.

2 weeks after....

PCT

Week 1/18
Nolva @ 40mg ed and Clomid @ 100mg ed (jump start your Clomid at 400mg day one and 200mg day two)

Week 2/19
Nolva at 40mg ed and Clomid @ 50mg ed

Week 3/20
Nolva @ 20mg ed and Clomid @ 50mg ed

Week 4/21
Nolva @ 20mg ed

Week 5/22
Nolva @ 20mg ed

Week 6/23
Nolva @ 20mg ed

not gonna have 12 weeks to run it thats the thing

[caged]

not gonna have 12 weeks to run it thats the thing

bro- what do you hope to gain? i dont think i would run anything then.

[franklucas]

bro- what do you hope to gain? i dont think i would run anything then.

maybe 10-15 pounds and strength. thats it

[Shibby]

How much time exactly do you have?

[franklucas]

like last week of june

[Bouncer]

bro- what do you hope to gain? i dont think i would run anything then.

10 weeks is fine for a test cycle.

[caged]

oh no doubt, but will he have the time to run a good solid pct.