Natural Test Levels

[Bouncer]

The doctors are going to look for a reason as to why my test levels are low. My PCP had all kinds of test ran on me to make sure there wasn't any underlying problems, and there wasn't. Big Surprise.... Anyhow, do I just come clean and say that a couple of years ago, I was hitting the juice pretty hard and it slammed my natural test levels in the ground? Or do I tell them something like I was using "supplements" and over time it has supressed my test levels? I'm just wondering which way I should try to lead the doc. He may see right through it all anyways.

Knox

NO NO NO NO. do not say anything about juice or even supplements.

you have low test levels now and that is all they need to know.

[Knoxville]

Good thing I asked.

[Bouncer]

if you tell them that they will be treating you with the attitude that "you did this to yourself". you dont want that.

[3v1lj03]

Listen to the B he is right on.

[Knoxville]

I got an appointment setup with an Endocrinologist here in town. Unfortunately I have to wait until 8-18-08 before I can see her for a new patient. I guess in the meantime, I'll go to my PCP and get her to give me a couple of shots of test a month before I see the endo doc.

[Bouncer]

I got an appointment setup with an Endocrinologist here in town. Unfortunately I have to wait until 8-18-08 before I can see her for a new patient. I guess in the meantime, I'll go to my PCP and get her to give me a couple of shots of test a month before I see the endo doc.

damn 2 months. is that the average time it takes to see an endo?

[Knoxville]

I don't know, I guess. There are two major hospitals here in town and our insurance pretty much requires us to go to one. The company has brokered better prices through the one with the one dndo doc. Maybe that's why she's so busy. I need to check around a little more I guess.

Knox

[Bouncer]

why dont you just go on a cycle in the mean time and then come off like 3-4 weeks before the endo appointment. :P

[Knoxville]

I'm still recovering from the shoulder surgery. I go see the orthopedic doc on the 23rd of this month. I have one more PT session and I think I'll be good to go on PT. I was doing pushups, lat pull downs, rows, and side lateral raises no problem. I am "hoping" that my doc gives me the green light to go back in the gym. IF that is the case, then I really need to get back in the gym for a couple of months to get my shoulder built back up before I put the juice to it. I'm definitely staying lower weight, high reps for a while, maybe 6 to 9 months.

What would you do??

Option 1: Get shots from my PCP to hold me over til I see the endo (2 months)
Option 2: Push out the Endo doc appt for a while and run a cycle in the meantime?

Other options are welcomed. I don't want to stick the AAS to myself without being close or at 100%. I haven't been in the gym since the 1st of the year. I need about 4 to 6 weeks of good cardio, dieting and strengthening if the doc gives me the ok on the shoulder. It's feeling good though. I was cutting up tree limbs this weekend and stacked over a rick of wood no problems. That's not a lot, but when it's 93 outside in KS, it's f'ing hot.

[Knoxville]

I talked to my PCP this evening. She asked me to call my insurance company to see if they would cover a 10cc bottle of test. I called and they said they would cover 80%. I asked if I could give myself the shots and they said that would be the only way I could get the test because they wouldn't pay a claim every time someone else gave me the shot. My PCP seems to think that one shot of 250 mg/ml test is sufficient, but in 2 months, I can take 1 shot a week and drop off the first august to ensure that my test levels are low for when the endo sees me. I asked my PCP what the endo might try and she said that the endo has some other kind of test gel packs under a different brand. Currently using androgel and it's not doing squat. So, thinks are looking a little better.

What I'm planning to do is get a 10cc bottle of test from the pharmacy, jack up my test levels for 4 or 5 weeks, see the endo, hopefully get a script with several refills, then quit taking the legal stuff, do a 10wk cycle of test/deca/fina/d-bol, then after doing proper post cycle, hop back on the legal test. At least I get back to where I need to be.

Any input?

[Bouncer]

i personally would save up a bunch of the legal test. that is the best shit you are ever going to use.

i forgot about your shoulder. i wouldn't mess around with anything until that is healed.

[Knoxville]

So I got the pre-authorization for my 10CC bottle of my Test from the PCP. I got the doctor to call it in, had everything lined up. I got a call from the Pharmacist and he said that my insurance will only pay for 2cc's a month. I guess the prescription is only for 30 days. So what should I do? Any suggestions? I was going to keep the 10cc bottle back for later use and bump my natural test levels with some underground stuff til I met up with the Endocrinologist in August. By then I should be good to go on the shoulder and really pushing myself.

I mean, I'll take what i can get from the docs.

Should I call back the pharmacist and ask how much it would be if I paid cash? Should I ask if the insurance picks up a portion, could I pay the difference? Do you think that would be suspicious? This is a small pharmacy, I am from a small town.

I feel like I've already strong armed my PCP into giving me the script for the injectable test on my own.

I'm afraid the Pharmacist will get skeptical, he's younger and smarter.

Knox