Might do another course

[BJJguy]

Hi

I have done susta 250 twice before, (6 week cycles, one amp per week) without taking anything post cycle...got some good gains during the course but crashed badly afterwards and gave most of the gains up!! I am toying with the idea of doing another cycle (my last was about 3 years ago) but this time i want to do it properly, with Clomid or something similar afterwards

I'm 6'1, about 170 pds, pretty lanky!! really want to bulk up and keep my muscle tone - any ideas??


Thanks

[parabody]

running sust at that low amts isnt really beneficial, try running a beginner cycle like test e for 8-12 weeks at like 500mgs a week with a full post cycle, although you have run 2 short cycles they werent run correctly sust for full benefits from what i understand has to be run eod or every 3rd day not once a week look at some of the other posts here for first cycle ideas

[ROCKETW19]

Hi

I have done susta 250 twice before, (6 week cycles, one amp per week) without taking anything post cycle...got some good gains during the course but crashed badly afterwards and gave most of the gains up!! I am toying with the idea of doing another cycle (my last was about 3 years ago) but this time i want to do it properly, with Clomid or something similar afterwards

I'm 6'1, about 170 pds, pretty lanky!! really want to bulk up and keep my muscle tone - any ideas??


Thanks

As said sust 1 amp per week is not good (Sust is a gimic drug and very hard to take properly) but if you got good gains then I would suggest 250mgs test E or C for 10-12 weeks followed up with a proper PCT. I like nolva and clomid. 99% of the people on this site will say you dont need clomid and I kinda agree but take it with my nolva anyways. It dosnt bother me and only cost a few bucks.

[parabody]

really ive never seen anyone say not to run clomid i have a bunch of them but last pct i took hcg adex and nolva because i didnt have clomid at the time and couldnt get it for a couple weeks but pct is something people often over look like my dumb ass self the first time and its not worth it there was a recent post about a guy on here have supressed test levels that cant come back up and thats prob a result of long straneous cycles

[Bouncer]

as others have said, that last cycle was pretty worthless. just not long enough for the sust to kick in.

this time, run someone like test enath for 12 weeks. follow it up with nolvadex 3 weels after your last shot of test. run the nolv for 4 weeks at 40mgs.

[BJJguy]

thanks for your help guys..

Bouncer - when u say run the nolv for 4 weeks at 40mgs...is that 40mgs per day or week?

[ROCKETW19]

thanks for your help guys..

Bouncer - when u say run the nolv for 4 weeks at 40mgs...is that 40mgs per day or week?

Per day! I usally run novla 40mgs for 2 weeks and then 20mgs for 3 weeks.
we all have our own lil thing we do!

[BJJguy]

Cheers rocket..

if i was unable to get the Test Enanthate, instead only sus250 again, would the same course ie. once a week for 12 weeks be beneficial? or is there a better way to do it?

and would i need to change the amounts of nolva i would need to take when finished?


thanks again

[Bouncer]

Cheers rocket..

if i was unable to get the Test Enanthate, instead only sus250 again, would the same course ie. once a week for 12 weeks be beneficial? or is there a better way to do it?

and would i need to change the amounts of nolva i would need to take when finished?


thanks again

i would inject the sust every 5 days to keep blood levels a little more stable. sust is really not optimal though so try to avoid it.

nolv dose and course would be the same.

[parabody]

really, sust i would do every other or every third day to optimize the short esters in there, but then again sust really isnt a beginners drug and im not a fan of it. i like my test and tren or test and eq just a simple cycle 2 things and pct

[Bouncer]

really, sust i would do every other or every third day to optimize the short esters in there, but then again sust really isnt a beginners drug and im not a fan of it. i like my test and tren or test and eq just a simple cycle 2 things and pct

yea, but EOD shot would give you a large build up of the long esters, not really the best idea. this is why sust is just not that good, no matter what you do you cant really take it in the correct way.

[ROCKETW19]

yea, but EOD shot would give you a large build up of the long esters, not really the best idea. this is why sust is just not that good, no matter what you do you cant really take it in the correct way.

I agree all along that sust is to hard to deal with but you can still break up the shots to EOD if you wanted to. 4 shots per week of 1/2 ml each shot. your levels would be the most stable but this way but IMO still a headache try to get test E or C