Prolangtum's Methyl 1-Test Trial

[GreenDragon]

Hey bros is 1-testosterone methyl carbonate the substance we are talking about here? I wasn't sure is the term methyl carbonate meant the same as methylated. TIA just doing some research :)

[Power Nutrition]

Methylation doesn't change the base molecule, it is another delivery method like cypionate esters or ethyl carbonate esters.

I will try to get you more info but for now, no, carbonate esters are totally different.

[spidey]

Originally posted by Power Nutrition
Methylation doesn't change the base molecule, it is another delivery method like cypionate esters or ethyl carbonate esters.

I will try to get you more info but for now, no, carbonate esters are totally different.

I may be misunderstanding the initial question here so if I am, let me know.

Carbonates are not terribly different than esters in terms of release kinetics. Think of original parabolan (trenbolone cyclohexylmethyl carbonate). It had a similar half life to esters like cypionate I believe.

Methylation absolutely DOES change the base molecule. The effects of methylation depend on where the methyl group is added. There is another thread on this board that has begun to look at those effects. Qualitatively, methylating at the 17-position renders the steroid "liver proof" in effect and increases its oral bioavailability. It also makes the steroid more androgenic and changes its anabolic profile as well. Methylating at the 1-position has nothing to do with oral bioavailability but it does tend to drastically decrease the steroid's androgenicity and it does change the anabolic profile as well. I haven't seen enough data to say whether these methylations tend to increase or decrease the anabolic activity over the initial un-methylated steroid.

[prolangtum]

Methylation does tend (in most cases) to decrease AR binding.

[prolangtum]

Day 12
First thing in the AM, Taken Cold
222lbs.
BF % Not taken
Average Arm size: 18 5/8"
Average Quad: 27 1/2"
Waist: 32" 7/8

Despite being fairly tired, I was able to bang out decent triples on DLs. Nothing really new to report as far as changes.

[Jarconis]

Originally posted by GreenDragon
Hey bros is 1-testosterone methyl carbonate the substance we are talking about here? I wasn't sure is the term methyl carbonate meant the same as methylated. TIA just doing some research :)

thats not methyl 1-test, its somethin different

[prolangtum]

Day 13
First thing in the AM, Taken Cold
221lbs.
BF % Not taken
Average Arm size: 18 5/8"
Average Quad: 27 1/2"
Waist: 32" 7/8

Energy was up, I had a killer Leg workout. I hit bis lightly since I didnt "feel" them earlier this week. I sped through my workout, mind/muscle connection was great. If I was not one of the un-lucky ones who experienced lethargy, I would run 40-50mgs ed for 4 weeks. But I would be in bed half of the time. One more day to go.

[mountainman]

so would you recomend this product yet or is the jury still out on that

[prolangtum]

For a first time PH/PS, 20mgs for 4 weeks is a good dosage. For someone cycling before, PH or AAS, 30-50mg ed for 4 weeks should be a good dosage. IMO it is probaly the best/strongest legal thing out there.

[spidey]

Originally posted by prolangtum
Methylation does tend (in most cases) to decrease AR binding.

I think that depends on WHERE the methyl is.

Which is more androgenic: test or 17-methyltest? How about boldenone vs. methandrostenolone? Granted, this is a very limited data set. They could be anomolies.

[prolangtum]

Day 15
First thing in the AM, Taken Cold
220lbs.
BF 6.9%
Average Arm size: 18 5/8"
Average Quad: 27 1/2"
Waist: 32" 7/8

I took my last dosage of M 1-T yesterday. I took measurements this morning.As far as legal supps, I have never used superone+ or any other transdermal PH, although I have used injectable PHs. As far as compared to the injectables, M 1-T's lethargy was much much much(yes thats much-es) more pronounced. As far as it affecting body composition, 20mgs ed was comparable to ~50mgs of tren. I really did not gain signifigant strength off of it like I do with tren. The pump was very close to tren. I think, although I would not recomend it, as a stand alone, to run 30-50mgs ed for 4 weeks. I think it would be wise to stack it with something like a transdermal 4-ad, or possibly 600mg-1g of 1,4. If your not to worried about being totally legal, the M 1-T would be something good to kick off a testerone cycle, say 10 weeks of Ethanate, 4 weeks of M 1-T to start, and run it again weeks 11 + 12 as the Eth. ester clears.

[Submission1]

So you lost 3.3 lbs of LBM and 1.7 lbs of fat.

-Sub.

[spidey]

So, is Powernutrition going to start selling methyl-1-test?

[Power Nutrition]

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