What is good on the market

[h-townsfinest]

I was wondering what is the best product out on the market? I was thinking about takein HGH but many people are telling me that a 21 year old shouldn't take HGH. I did a cycle of winni when I was in highschool n loved it saw a lot of results but Iam in the military now and can't afford 2 take anabolics. Iam trying to blow up n keep my size. I know HGH isn't traceable through urine that's y I wanted 2 take it I was thinking about takein 2 iu to 4 iu a day 4 about 6months 5 days on 2days off. What should be suggested

[Mr I]

Its not worth the money for you. Just use creatine and eats lots of meats.

[COLOSSUS]

get you diet down. your training. and maybe after a while then maybe you can think of the AAS/HGH etc. all of us are willing to help you if you help yourself. post up your current diet. training program so we can critique it.

in the mean time you can spend your time lookin through the board and the posts. read up on what your trying to get yourself into. this is a great board with tons of info.

HGH should be one of the last things on your list anyways.

[h-townsfinest]

Right now iam in training but when Iam done ill go back 2 my workout I go by. I monday chest Tues back Wen tri Thur bi Fri shoulder n trap sat legs n Sun off. I lift hard until I can't go anymore.

My diet consist @ breakfast scrambled eggs beagle beacon fruit lunch right now r MREs but when I can eat I have chicken rice a small salad n another veg n for dinner I eat mashed potatoes some kind of meat n veg when I can I try 2 take in 1 to 2 protein shakes a day

I have tried every possible supplement from GNC n have been dedicated 2 the gym for over 3 years I have seen results but not the kind I want. I am currently 5"11' 185lbs not fat but wouldn't hurt 2 shed another few but I want 2 get up a lot more in size. iam just tired of seeing my friends that I lift with get bigger each week bc they can take deca n iam still the same size I was 6 months ago

[Bouncer]

Right now iam in training but when Iam done ill go back 2 my workout I go by. I monday chest Tues back Wen tri Thur bi Fri shoulder n trap sat legs n Sun off. I lift hard until I can't go anymore.

My diet consist @ breakfast scrambled eggs beagle beacon fruit lunch right now r MREs but when I can eat I have chicken rice a small salad n another veg n for dinner I eat mashed potatoes some kind of meat n veg when I can I try 2 take in 1 to 2 protein shakes a day

I have tried every possible supplement from GNC n have been dedicated 2 the gym for over 3 years I have seen results but not the kind I want. I am currently 5"11' 185lbs not fat but wouldn't hurt 2 shed another few but I want 2 get up a lot more in size. iam just tired of seeing my friends that I lift with get bigger each week bc they can take deca n iam still the same size I was 6 months ago

supplements and gh are not the answer.

the results you are looking for can only be achieved by strict dieting with a lot of clean calories.

[h-townsfinest]

yeah true what advice do you have what should i eat n what should i change if i want 2 up my size

[JUICE]

its all about having a good diet and training bro.

Check out this section on nutrition, it has alot of nice info..
Nutrition - SuperiorMuscle.com - Bodybuilding Forums
Natural Training and Diet - SuperiorMuscle.com - Bodybuilding Forums

[hitmansb]

start by recording EVERYTHING you ate today...approximate the quantities as closely as possible. Then use a net search to find the nutritional values of those items, mainly the grams of protein. Add them all up. If you aren't consuming a minimum of 1.5g of protein per pound of bodyweight (~280g), that's the first key change you need to make. It doesn't matter how hard you work out; if you aren't eating enough protein, your muscles will not grow to their full potential.

[Bouncer]

check out this thread.

http://www.superiormuscle.com/forums...ybuilding-diet

[h-townsfinest]

thanks a lot the thread that on how to structure a bodybuilding diet seems badass iam gona try it out n see how it goes. As far as supplements from gnc what like pre and post work out products should i take

[Bouncer]

thanks a lot the thread that on how to structure a bodybuilding diet seems badass iam gona try it out n see how it goes. As far as supplements from gnc what like pre and post work out products should i take

forget GNC, they are overpriced.

go with AllSportsNutrition or All The Whey | Whey Protein Supplements for Bodybuilding and Health

get yourself a good multi vitamin, protein, creatine, and some fishoil. for postworkout i like a Maltodextrin/whey mix.

[h-townsfinest]

thanks now would i take the multi vitamin and fish oil once a day in the morning with breakfast. Do u recamend i take the creatine only for pre work out or more than that iam not sure what a good creatine would be. Also on an average how many protein shakes should i try to get in a day

[h-townsfinest]

would i only take the maltodextrin n protein once a day after workouts and only on workout days and days i run

[Bouncer]

malto and whey would be post workout.

i take my multi once a day with my first meal. fish oil can be taken through out the day.

creatine can be used pre and post workout.

no more then 2 shakes a day IMO. rest should be clean foods.

[h-townsfinest]

sounds good man thanks as far as that goes i should just wait b4 i start a gh cyc