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  • Some advice for a beginner

    I have 48 100mg amps of Primo, TEST E. GERMAN ROTEXX 15 AMPS 250MG and Novadex 50 tabs x 20mg.

    I am 35, 230 and 6'2". Probably 20 pounds overweight. This is my first cycle and although I really have no muscle definition I do NOT want to blow up.

    I was thinking 250mg ew of TEST E, 400mg ew of the primo and pct using Novadex.

    Here are my questions and any advice would be appreciated.

    1. I am having trouble finding info on how much I can take at once or should take at once (in one injection). Could I inject 400mg of Primo at once and in another injection the same day take the 250mg of test E. I have found no info on amount in one injection.

    2. I was thinking of training 5days on 2 off? Any thoughts?

    3. What is the best pct using Novadex after taking this. ?

    Any other advice would be great.

    Thanks

  • #2
    I would really suggest adding in some cardio 3 times a week at 45 min per session. Brisk walk, nothing more. Help get rid of that extra fat.

    I would run the test at 250mgs every 5 days and the primo at 300mgs every 5 days. This is plenty for a first cycle.

    I would shoot no more then 2 cc's at a time. Since you will be shooting a total of 4 cc's every 5 days (3 cc's primo and 1 cc test) I would do 2 seperate injection in the same day.

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    • #3
      just to clarify...

      Your advice is to take a 300mg injection of primo and then (in the same day) 250mg injection of test (every 5 days). Is this correct? One in the morning and one at night or something?? Or one injection in one check and one in the other check back to back??

      I am also seeking some advice on the amount of Novadex after I am complete. I have read 14 days after my last injection I should take day 1 - 300mg, day 2-11 ..etc..

      With these low doeses of test am I ok with just taking Navadex or should I consider adding HCG?
      Last edited by dcp421; 11-05-08, 11:23 AM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by dcp421 View Post
        Your advice is to take a 300mg injection of primo and then (in the same day) 250mg injection of test (every 5 days). Is this correct? One in the morning and one at night or something?? Or one injection in one check and one in the other check back to back??

        I am also seeking some advice on the amount of Novadex after I am complete. I have read 14 days after my last injection I should take day 1 - 300mg, day 2-11 ..etc..

        With these low doeses of test am I ok with just taking Navadex or should I consider adding HCG?
        in one of your shots you can mix the 1 cc of test with 1 cc of primo. that way each of your shots will be an even 2 cc's. yes, do 2 separate shots in 2 different muscles. quads, glutes etc..

        300mg of nolvadex is WAAAY to much.

        21 days after your last shot of test and primo, start nolvadex at 40mgs a day for 6 weeks.

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        • #5
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          • #6
            A couple last thoughts...

            1. I am getting a lot of advice to do a Test only first cycle (500mg) but have also read how great primo is to add to any cycle. Any thoughts?

            2. Someone also advised hcg at bioidentical dosing throughout cycle, so my testes never shut down in the first place (seeing I am 35 years old). Not real keen on hcg from the little I read and was hoping the Novadex would be enough.

            3. I am getting advice that a 500mg shot of test is ok (all in one injection) but have also read that I shouldnt inject more than 2cc in one injection

            What do you think of this -
            Weeks 1-3 - 500mg test (2x1ml shots)
            Weeks 4-12 - 250mg test (1x1mL shot)
            Weeks 1-12 - 400mg primo (2x2mL shots)

            Nolvadex starting at week 14, 20-40mg/ed for 3 weeks.

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            • #7
              500mg of test just isnt needed for a first cycle. 250mg every 5 days is fine.

              primo should be added. its mild and will give the gains from test a harder more defined look. the 2 work well together.

              hcg isnt needed.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dcp421 View Post
                A couple last thoughts...

                1. I am getting a lot of advice to do a Test only first cycle (500mg) but have also read how great primo is to add to any cycle. Any thoughts?

                2. Someone also advised hcg at bioidentical dosing throughout cycle, so my testes never shut down in the first place (seeing I am 35 years old). Not real keen on hcg from the little I read and was hoping the Novadex would be enough.

                3. I am getting advice that a 500mg shot of test is ok (all in one injection) but have also read that I shouldnt inject more than 2cc in one injection

                What do you think of this -
                Weeks 1-3 - 500mg test (2x1ml shots)
                Weeks 4-12 - 250mg test (1x1mL shot)
                Weeks 1-12 - 400mg primo (2x2mL shots)

                Nolvadex starting at week 14, 20-40mg/ed for 3 weeks.
                Ok you just didnt listen to a word of advice you were givin.
                You also keep switching questions, Get a set of questions and stick to it!
                for the questions you just asked.

                1. I would also say test only for a first cycle!

                2. You are only on 12 weeks and very low dose no need for HCG.

                3. Each muscle groupe has different amounts it can take with comfort. IMO in your quads and ass you can take 3mls. If your quads are small then 2mls

                I do not like your cycle at all. First you dont need to shoot 2x1ml shots just take them both. I also think it is way to much drugs for a first time user!

                you were givin advice on the nolva do as you choose, But 3 weeks isnt gonna cut it specially at 20mgs.

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