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  • pct while on cycle HELP

    hi guys I'm new to the fourm
    Im about to start a 10 week cycle of 10wks test e and tren a I'm doing a clean lean bulk I want to run anti e's the whole time to minimize water retention and adverse sides my doses are 500mg a wk of test e and 400mg of tren a per wk. What are your thoughts on anti e's or proviron?
    Last edited by iMuscle26; 11-17-08, 08:51 AM. Reason: typo error

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    Just remember that anti e's will do nothing for tren's side effects. If you are prone to progesterone type gyno from tren an anto e will have no effect.

    I would suggest running low dose wintrol with the cycle. Winny is an anti progesten and will fit nicely in the cycle. 25mg per day would be enough.

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    • #3
      yes I have that on hand the tren doesn't to e me sides my main on den was the water from the test any ideas

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      • #4
        get yourself some liquedex here. Superior-Research.com and run it at .5mgs every day.

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        • #5
          thanks that's what I had in mind thanks for your help

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          • #6
            so you think I should obtain good results with miminal water renention since I am eating on my cutting diet running that gear

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            • #7
              Originally posted by iMuscle26 View Post
              so you think I should obtain good results with miminal water renention since I am eating on my cutting diet running that gear
              minimal water retention from a clean diet and some liquidex, yes.

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              • #8
                game on thanks for the advice

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by iMuscle26 View Post
                  hi guys I'm new to the fourm
                  Im about to start a 10 week cycle of 10wks test e and tren a I'm doing a clean lean bulk I want to run anti e's the whole time to minimize water retention and adverse sides my doses are 500mg a wk of test e and 400mg of tren a per wk. What are your thoughts on anti e's or proviron?
                  How many cycles have you run? What are some stats?
                  I like the cycle nice and simple with out getting crazy on MGs.

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                  • #10
                    I have ran 5 cycles before I'm 5"8 190 at 13percent but dieting down now 3rd week of dieting

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by iMuscle26 View Post
                      I have ran 5 cycles before I'm 5"8 190 at 13percent but dieting down now 3rd week of dieting
                      Good job bro 6th cycle and still keeping the doses reasonable. If your diet is on you will gain some nice lean mass.
                      You have already run test so if the sides are not to badd I would not use any anti-Es the estrogen will help you grow bigger. Just keep the diet in check and remember its winter a extra bit of water is ok as long as you are growing.

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                      • #12
                        What's your take on tuning proviron in cycle to keep the dry leaner look

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by iMuscle26 View Post
                          What's your take on tuning proviron in cycle to keep the dry leaner look
                          i think its just to mild to do much. i like winny much more.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by iMuscle26 View Post
                            What's your take on tuning proviron in cycle to keep the dry leaner look
                            I have run proviron many times and it just isnt strong enough to be considered a anti-e IMO. You may react different? It is worth a try if you havnt run it yet! I used to love experminting with different combos.

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                            • #15
                              Hello- I havent posted in a while so here goes.I have had great results from proviron at 40 to 50mg a day.I think it has similar anti e and anti progesterone properties as winni because they are similar in chemical makeup.Winni is defenately the stronger of the two but also harsher on the liver and cant safely be run as long.They are both darivatives of dht which gives you that dry harden look.also proviron is supposed to free bound testosterone in the body making it more bioavailable.they are both good choises and both have anti e and anti prog properties.its just prov can be run safely for a more extended period.It sounds like all you need for such moderate amounts of test.you might want to lower your tren dosage a bit and see if you get good results.P.S. Always have nolva on hand.

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