Sustanon/EQ cycle?

[CrazyBrother]

What's up bros/sistas.

I have been training for a little over a year hard now; gaining 10-12 lbs through the year naturally. This was of course through eating more, eating better, and lifting. I am getting stronger but not gaining any significant weight.

My diet is focused on weight gain more than anything.(Rices, pastas, chicken, red meats, startches) I keep my body hydrated with powerades.gatorades & water.

I am currenty testing out Promatrix's "Testobol" they have just came out with. Staying at a steady weight but seems like my strength keeps going up natually. Been on it now for about 3 wks.

Anyway, if this "testobol" doesn't work I am thinking about going on either a EQ 400mg/wk or a Sustanon 250mg/EQ 400mg/wk cycle. (Clomid with the combo cycle of course)

My background in anabolics is one cycle 4 1/2 years ago . (18 yrs old) Laurabolin/Testosterona50 cycle) 8wks
Experienced a very dramatic loss in body weight and muscle.
Of course 4 years ago, I also didn't have the anabolic knowledge I have now neither did I use clomid or hcg.

My goal is to gain a solid musclular body over time. I don't want to just jump into a "test" cycle so I can blow up like a ballon filled with tons of water, just to loss it a little while after my cycle ends.
I would like to gain steady true muscle with a.l.a.p water retention, that's why I am looking at EQ as a choice.

Please let me know what you think about this. BE HONEST.
If you don't tell me what you think or know, I might make a very bad decision or not be thinking of something you have thought of.
From what I read, this is an overall good drug.(EQ)

SO PLEASE, GIVE ME YOUR OPINIONS. THEY ALL COUNT!

PEACE OUT FAMILY

CRAZYBROTHER :MOON:

[YellowJacket]

10-12lbs in 12 months is actually pretty good to be done naturally. I say give it another year or so before doing any anabolics and exploit your natural abilities. Of course this is my opinion and you're obviously of age to make a shrewd decision on your own.....

I will offer you this pertaining to your cycle:

250mgs a week of Sust. really isnt going to to much for you. 500mgs a week is pretty standard for a beginner. Just curious, why Sust. and not a single ester test, like Enth. or cyp?

[Nekrawulf]

I have known several bro who have done heavily sided eq/test cycle... But if you are going to do that then you need to go heavier on the eq..i.e 150-250mg week test enath, and 600-1000 mg eq a week.

Something like this is great for the ligaments....it actually increases the sysnthesis of joint tissue.

[sngldad66]

I would recommend 500mg test and 600mg eq. a week and my preferance is a single esther test such as enan or cyp. JMO

[skinnypuppy]

bump what "sngldad66" said... if sust is all you can get... then it will do (with water retention)... but cyp and ena are great bulkers... have you considered any Dbol?

[goliath]

i agree with sngldad - run test @ 500mgs and EQ at 600mgs. Keep your diet dialed in and you should experience some nice growth off that...

maybe add a very small dose of ldex to keep water off. but at only 500mgs/week it shouldn' t be much of a problem.

[goliath]

Originally posted by skinnypuppy
have you considered any Dbol?

he said with as little water retention as possible, lol.

[Stalwart]

I agree with Yellow Jacket . . . do everything you can naturally 1st . . . Get the workouts, sleep, diet down pat . . . then when you plateau . . . get some help

I was 35 when I did my 1st cycle, and was huge . . .

[CrazyBrother]

Damn yall, thanks for all your opinions. I know dbol is awesome shit, but I think probability is I will loose all gains through dbol. You LOL cause I say with a least water retention as possible? I want muscle, not bloat. I'm not looking for all mass either, I want some cut. I'd rather be a little smaller with cut than a big bloated water head!

The reason why I was considering Sustanon was because yes, it is readily available to me but I read that I will keep more of my gains from Sust vs. other Tests. You guys have to realize that I am 23 years old, not 30 something. So I am trying to stay away from test. But I guess a little won't hurt, just wanted to keep at least 80% or higher of gains earned!

Any other comments are welcome. Thanks for not being ass holes also.

Peace Out
CrazyBrother

[YellowJacket]

Sustanon = test blend.

[skinnypuppy]

I have run Dbol/sust w/liquidex with very little bloat... what bloat I did have was gone in less than a week.
Lemme clarify that.. I ran 300mg sust every 4 days and 6 Thais (2 @morn...2@before work-out... and 2@nite) for 3 weeks... then went to Clen for 2 weeks... heavy cardio the last 2 weeks... ldex throught I guess I did get some bloat the 3rd week... but I burned it off at the end.

[Old Guy]

You guys have to realize that I am 23 years old, not 30 something. So I am trying to stay away from test. But I guess a little won't hurt, just wanted to keep at least 80% or higher of gains earned!

Bro you may already know this but Sustanon is a blend of four different test esters.

I've never tried EQ so I can't really make a recommendation on it. I would like to try it, and I would like to try an EQ only cycle myself, but I would want to do it when my body fat is low.

Since its been 4 1/2 years, IMO you could basically treat this as a first cycle and you can't really go wrong with 400-500 mg/wk Enth or Cyp and proper ancillaries.

[teekahty]

I would consider this your first cycle (again,LOL) and the best advice given for a first cycle is always keep it simple . I would leave the EQ out . because in order to achieve everything EQ has to offer it should be run in heavier , longer cycles . if sust is what you have . then run with it . @ 500 mg per week . that would be one cc on monday and one cc on thursday (two seperate shots) . if your worried about bloat check into some liquidex . I would run that for 10 weeks with proper diet and train like a Mutha

[granby140]

as a first real cycle i would think 250mg of test week would be fine enough if training and diet is tuned in

[YellowJacket]

250 is probably a little low.... 400-500mgs a week is about right.