16 week plan

[3v1lj03]

If the following were true and the goals were. A person wanted to stay under 220 for a strongman comp in June, and to increase strength and lose bf to stay under the set weight limit and still be able to eat enough to increase strength.
and the currant stats were. 204 lbs 5'7" about 10% bf .


Proposed cycle:
16 weeks
1 -4 Igf 3 x per week 40 mcg
8 - 16 Igf 3 x per week 40 mcg
1 - 16 500 mg test cyp 400 mg tren eth, 300 mg equipose (two injects per week)
17 PCT back on the low dose test.

what do you think

[Bouncer]

i would leave the EQ out personally. i dont see it adding much to the cycle.

[hitmansb]

i would leave the EQ out personally. i dont see it adding much to the cycle.

You don't think he should have an anabolic in the mix to keep his tendons healthy (to offset the suppression of collagen synthesis caused by androgens), given that he'll be doing strongman training?

[bigbadexcursion]

I was thinking same thing tendon wise

[bigscott]

You don't think he should have an anabolic in the mix to keep his tendons healthy (to offset the suppression of collagen synthesis caused by androgens), given that he'll be doing strongman training?

i agree it should stay in -- but it should be at a higher dose . eq works best when run at 400 mgs or higher -- other then that it looks good

[Bouncer]

(to offset the suppression of collagen synthesis caused by androgens)

can you talk about this more? articles etc.. never heard of this.

[3v1lj03]

You don't think he should have an anabolic in the mix to keep his tendons healthy (to offset the suppression of collagen synthesis caused by androgens), given that he'll be doing strongman training?

i would leave the EQ out personally. i dont see it adding much to the cycle.

Thanks everyone for you responses.
Hitman mentions the reason that I included it. But, I would be interested in any scientific data or even more anecdotal information there is on this subject.
I originally was going to have the EQ at 400 mgs and could easily increase it.Like I said this is the first draft and I am not too hardheaded to change it.

[3v1lj03]

I find this posted all over the internet and BB forums I cannot however, find any real source info. This is only a small part of the whole thing.

"To plan a cycle where the goal is to increase skeletal muscle mass/strength while at the same time increase joint/tendon/ligament strength, enough to keep up with the dramatic increase in skeletal muscle, you must choose drugs like Eq, Deca, Anavar, or Primo as the base of your cycle. Testosterone and its esters can be added to your cycle to keep levels within a 'normal' physiological range (ie, 100-200 mg/wk) but must not go above this. Since drugs like eq, deca, anavar and primo will reduce endogenous, natural levels of test, these levels may be maintained with exogenous test in the 100-200 mg/wk range. Test at this dose will not inhibit collagen syn, but paradoxically, will help increase it. It is when exogenous testosterone is used > 200 mg/wk that collagen syn is inhibited.

Deca @ 3 mg/kg a week(about 270 mg/wk for a 200 lb male) will increase procollagen III levels by 270% by week 2. Procollagen III is a primary indicator used to determine the rate of collagen syn. As you can see, deca is a very good drug at giving you everything you want -- an increase in collagen syn, an increase in skeletal muscle, and increases in bone mass and density. The one thing it does not give you is wood.

Primobolan, @ 5 mg/kg, will increase collagen synthesis by roughly 180% -- less than deca and equipoise but still substantial.

Equipoise @ 3 mg/kg will increase procollagen III by approximately 340% -- slightly better than deca.

Oxandrolone has over a hundred studies documenting its effectiveness at treating patients needing rapid increases in collagen syn to enhance healing.

These drugs have longer half-lives than most other AAS, so this should be considered when timing your post cycle clomid use. Here they are:

Deca: 15 days Equipoise: 14 days Primobolan: 10.5 days"