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**WorkoutFreak078** · 03-17-09, 09:46 PM

I am on my second steroid cycle right now. It is the same as my first one. I am taking 500mg of Sustonan 250 and 600mg of EQ a week. It is a 16 week cycle. My first cycle was from last Feb to beginning of June, and I just started this one a couple of weeks ago so I had a long time off in between.

Last year I also took Clen and T3 but not at the same time. For the Clen I did 2 weeks on, and 2 off. I tapered up from 20mcg to 120mcg with no side effects except for cramps in the heel of my feet. I did it about 4 times after, tapering from 40mcg to 200mcg with no side effects again, except for cramps in my heels. My body handles stimulants really well. For the T3, I did it for 4 weeks, but only once and tapered from 25mcg to 100mcg, and back down to 25mcg. I had no side effects on that either.

**FrankTheTank55** · 03-17-09, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by WorkoutFreak078 View Post

Last year I also took Clen and T3 but not at the same time. For the Clen I did 2 weeks on, and 2 off. I tapered up from 20mcg to 120mcg with no side effects except for cramps in the heel of my feet. I did it about 4 times after, tapering from 40mcg to 200mcg with no side effects again, except for cramps in my heels. My body handles stimulants really well. For the T3, I did it for 4 weeks, but only once and tapered from 25mcg to 100mcg, and back down to 25mcg. I had no side effects on that either.

Did you see any results?

**ROCKETW19** · 03-17-09, 11:52 PM

Originally posted by WorkoutFreak078 View Post

I was looking up a good Clen/T3 cycle and I found one that many people link to. This is what it looks like:

Day 1 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day 2 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day 3 Clen 80mcg / T3 75mcg
Day 4 Clen 100mcg / T3 75mcg
Day 5 Clen 100mcg / T3 75mcg
Day 6 Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
Day 7 Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
Day 8 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day 9 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day10 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day11 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day12 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day13 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day14 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day15 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day16 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day17 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day18 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day19 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day20 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day21 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day22 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day23 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day24 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day25 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day26 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day27 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day28 Clen off / T3 100mcg
Day29 Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
Day30 Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
Day31 Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg
Day32 Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg
Day33 Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg
Day34 Clen 120mcg / T3 50mcg
Day35 Clen 120mcg / T3 50mcg
Day36 Clen off / T3 50mcg
Day37 Clen off / T3 50mcg
Day38 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day39 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day40 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day41 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day42 Clen off / T3 25mcg

Do you think it is safe to run T3 at such a high dosage for such a long time? Or is this safe for your thyroid? He also seems to taper up rather quickly. If there would be no problems running it, then this is the one I would be doing.

IMO you are going to high on the T-3 and to long as Rado said. I personaly dont think anyone should run T-3 unless they are on GH. But that is just me.
What is your BF%?

**WorkoutFreak078** · 03-18-09, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by FrankTheTank55 View Post

Did you see any results?

I lost 15lbs in about 3 weeks on the T3. The last week of it my entire family had birthdays and anniversary's so I sort of munched out a bit. I had some decent results with the Clen. For the Clen, my diet wasn't exactly that great, so I am sure the results could have been a lot better.

To answer everyone elses questions, I am 6'1, 239lbs, 20% bodyfat. Last June I was 225lbs with 14% bodyfat. I gained a bit, but I have been doing really well now. I am pretty much at the point where you can't realize I have a gut when I am wearing a shirt, but still not lean enough to take my shirt off.

Yeah, I thought this Clen/T3 cycle was pretty long as well, and too high of a dosage. I didn't want to try it without asking people who know what they are talking about, hence the post. Do you guys recommend me stacking Clen/T3, or to just do them separately? If you think it is fine to stack them, do you guys think you could link me to a good Clen/T3 cycle, or post one here? I would really appreciate it.

As I said before, my body handles stimulants extremely well. I never get side effects, even at extremely high dosages.

**3v1lj03** · 03-18-09, 01:25 PM

I stacked them with good results had t3 up to 100 mcgs and clen @ 120 for two weeks and tappered of for two. My resting HR was about 109 bpm though. Other than that and being very hot all the time I had very good results. Lots of studys have found the thyroid has no problem recovering from long term high doasages. Look it up. I am not recomending anything to you I am just sayin'

**WorkoutFreak078** · 03-18-09, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by 3v1lj03 View Post

I stacked them with good results had t3 up to 100 mcgs and clen @ 120 for two weeks and tappered of for two. My resting HR was about 109 bpm though. Other than that and being very hot all the time I had very good results. Lots of studys have found the thyroid has no problem recovering from long term high doasages. Look it up. I am not recomending anything to you I am just sayin'

How long did you run the T3/Clen cycle for? Also, do you think you can show me how you did the cycle?

**ROCKETW19** · 03-18-09, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by WorkoutFreak078 View Post

I lost 15lbs in about 3 weeks on the T3. The last week of it my entire family had birthdays and anniversary's so I sort of munched out a bit. I had some decent results with the Clen. For the Clen, my diet wasn't exactly that great, so I am sure the results could have been a lot better.

If you truly lost 15 pounds of BF in 3 weeks with just the T-3 then something is wrong. I would go to the docs and have my T-3 levels checked out.

Why would you take a T-3 clen stack and then pig out right after? that makes no sence at all. you are puttin your body at risk for nothing.

**ROCKETW19** · 03-18-09, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by 3v1lj03 View Post

Lots of studys have found the thyroid has no problem recovering from long term high doasages. Look it up. I am not recomending anything to you I am just sayin'

This is true lots of thing saying we rebound for T-3 use. I dont care what they say cuzz they were also just saying how bad it was. To me IMO it is not worth it. T-3 is no super drug. Get a clean diet and try some cardio it will be alot better than T-3 anyday

**WorkoutFreak078** · 03-18-09, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post

If you truly lost 15 pounds of BF in 3 weeks with just the T-3 then something is wrong. I would go to the docs and have my T-3 levels checked out.

Why would you take a T-3 clen stack and then pig out right after? that makes no sence at all. you are puttin your body at risk for nothing.

This was almost a year ago, everything is fine. I have been burning fat and building muscle quite well. I didn't pig out after, it was during the last week of the T3. I wouldn't call it pigging out though. I would pick at the chips and guacamole or whatever that was laid out, and whatever was for dinner, and maybe have a few drinks. I am sure that would hinder the weight loss a bit while on the T3, so I just didn't lose weight for that week (as far as I know, I just used a scale). It's not like I was stuffing doughnuts and cake down my throat. :)

Why would you think something is wrong though just by losing 15lbs in 3 weeks from T3? Keep in mind I was taking gear as well. From what I read, losing 15lbs in that amount of time on T3 isn't unheard of. That guy from the link I posted dropped like 30lbs in 6 weeks from that T3/Clen stack.

I was 240lbs when I started taking the T3 (the reason I took T3 was because no matter how much I changed up my diet, or anything else, I could not drop a pound, and this went on for 3 months, so I took the T3 to make up for lost time) I dropped down to 225lbs where I stayed at for about 5 or so months. Then I injured myself, couldn't workout for about 6 months and started going to the bars with my friends and not working out. That's how I gained a little bit more weight. Now I am down to 239lbs and am really healthy. I feel good and would like to safely take T3 again, tapering and all, to drop some quick pounds.

**ROCKETW19** · 03-18-09, 05:19 PM

MY bad you said munched out not pig out! I wasnt tryin to be a ass. I just mis quoted sorry.
15lbs in 3 weeks on just T-3 Is not gonna happen. But you said you had other gear also so that makes more sence.

Sorry bro i am not buying the whole " I cant drop a pound no matter how much I changed my diet. That makes no sence either. Would you mind posting your diet? I am no expert in nutrition but I know a lil and we do have a few guy here that are really good so post it up and lets see if we can figure it out

**WorkoutFreak078** · 03-18-09, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post

MY bad you said munched out not pig out! I wasnt tryin to be a ass. I just mis quoted sorry.
15lbs in 3 weeks on just T-3 Is not gonna happen. But you said you had other gear also so that makes more sence.

Sorry bro i am not buying the whole " I cant drop a pound no matter how much I changed my diet. That makes no sence either. Would you mind posting your diet? I am no expert in nutrition but I know a lil and we do have a few guy here that are really good so post it up and lets see if we can figure it out

It's okay dude, I didn't think you were being an ass. Anyways, this was a year ago so my diet now is fine. I've been studying this stuff for awhile now and I can definitely drop more weight without T3. The only reason I am taking it is because I had really good results on it last year, and I am trying to drop as much fat as possible before the summer.

**3v1lj03** · 03-19-09, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by WorkoutFreak078 View Post

How long did you run the T3/Clen cycle for? Also, do you think you can show me how you did the cycle?

I ran for a total of 9 weeks I planned for a 6 week cycle but i likeD it so much and my body was tolerating it well so I went a couple more weeks. I started at 25mcg t3 and increased over the first 2 weeks same with the clen. I did not really taper off I just dropped down to 25 mcg t3 and no clean for week 9 and then cold turkey did not ever get sluggish or anything. That is just my experience and not the recommended method of use. I also ran the clen 2 weeks on 2 off with an ECA/Y stack. But, I have to tell you I have since gotten leaner 8.5% with just diet and twice a day cardio. Armed with both these experiences I don't think I would use the clen/t3 stack for fat loss in the future.

**ROCKETW19** · 03-19-09, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by 3v1lj03 View Post

. But, I have to tell you I have since gotten leaner 8.5% with just diet and twice a day cardio. Armed with both these experiences I don't think I would use the clen/t3 stack for fat loss in the future.

Thata boy. Diet is a very powerfull drug none better. I just wish I knew all this 15 years ago.

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