New Cutting stack cycle

[clk320]

Hello everyone I'm new (as new as they come) to posting. I just have a few questions about cycling. Please let me know if I speakon something I'm not suppose to these forum can get super complexed, but anyway here I go. I want to do a cutting cycle using anvar winstrol clen and tren-fin. This will be my 1st My stats

5'9.5"
199
17.9% BF

My work out consist of German Volume training 5 out of 7 days
I complete a 5 mile walk twice a week, complete a 4-5 mile run at least once every 2 weeks and hit the eliptical machine about twice a week for 45 mins.
I'm using nutri-system for clean diet and also suppliment my eating with chicken and fish all baked and boiled. So a typical day

06:00 hydroxycut (2) protien shake 30 grams and small breakfast
09:00 protien shake
11:00 hydroxycut (2)
12:00 nutri system meal and salad or some type of protien (chicken etc)
14:00 protien shake
16:00 workout
18:00 sensible dinner w/ nutri-system and salad or some chicken or fish

I want to drop my BF to about 10-12% and max wieght 205lbs is this the right way to go? I don't want to use heavy testorone because of side effects (aromatization) etc, just want to put on some lean mass and get rid of the love handles.... Your input would be awesome.... I'm still in the process of finding reputable places to get "suppliments" Thanks for all your help

[ROCKETW19]

clk 320 you have a merc?
anyways I will just start with the cycle. Tren would not be a wise choice for a first cycle as it shuts you down very hard and has side possable effects a first time user might not understand.
I personaly would use test E. You say you dont want to use it cuzz of side effects. Test has easy to control and identify sides. and since you never tried it how do you know you will get any?
Now stackin it with anaver, winny, and clen. How the hell will you know what drug did what? You should always start with 1 drug and add on from there as you progress. this way you will understand each one and what they do for you.

[COLOSSUS]

welcome


and i agree with rocket. test first cycle all the way.

[al the chemist]

I agree with rocket...if you do want to stack a cycle i would recommend test e at 400 mg/week and take anavar 30 mg/day. Test itself will cause some water retention but in my experience controlling your diet/sodium greatly reduces or increases your water retention, and you havent even taken anything yet so how do you know how test will affect you? my friend bloats up like a balloon whereas I can stay pretty dry on the same dosages...

[clk320]

First off I like to thank you guys for the feedback, great stuff. My reasoning for the stack I chose was through the many hours of research and then making an educated choice. I'm very open to suggestions. One thing I would like to know is why is the general consensus Test E, as oppose to Winn or Anav? From what I understand these are generally the "milder" types for lack of a better phrase. I do understand the aforementioned response that everyone responds differently but just would like to be a bit more educated. Again thanks for all the input

[bigbadexcursion]

hugs not drugs

[al the chemist]

anavar by itself will be too mild to warrent it...winny and anavar isnt something i would recommend due to both being orals(17-aa) and could mess up your liver(to what extent is unknown really but would not recommend taking 2 orals at once)...tren is great but comes along with alotta side effects(insomnia, aggitation, etc) and unless you get tren enanthate you would be injecting every other day and that is not really appealing during your first cycle. clen is a good cutting agent but isnt an anabolic...test by itself or test with an oral to kickstart (test 400/wk and winny 50 mg/day(4-6 wks only on the oral) or test and tbol or test and anavar) would all be great first cycles and show you how your body would react to the substances

[clk320]

anavar by itself will be too mild to warrent it...winny and anavar isnt something i would recommend due to both being orals(17-aa) and could mess up your liver(to what extent is unknown really but would not recommend taking 2 orals at once)...tren is great but comes along with alotta side effects(insomnia, aggitation, etc) and unless you get tren enanthate you would be injecting every other day and that is not really appealing during your first cycle. clen is a good cutting agent but isnt an anabolic...test by itself or test with an oral to kickstart (test 400/wk and winny 50 mg/day(4-6 wks only on the oral) or test and tbol or test and anavar) would all be great first cycles and show you how your body would react to the substances

Well thanks AL but there has been some changes. What would anyone suggest if you ONLY and ONLY had 2 20ml satchets of anavar 1 20ml of winny 20ml of clen and 20ml metribolone these are ALL oral. I REALLY did not want to run and Test on a first cycle at all but will rethink that and is a serious consideration in the future. I'm VERY aware of the toxicity level of these orals. I will run Anabolic Innovation Cycle support with anything taken. If there's any constructive critism or suggestions of cycles with the aforemention gear please let me know. Thanks for your input