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    DNP and Insulin For Dramatic Results

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    okay so im on day 5 of dnp workin pretty good im 210 2 weeks out from show a lil water retention at 400 mgs of dnp just found an article on the benefits of using insulin as well with dnp anyone have any expierence

    my current cycle is as follows:

    1 g test cyp - stopping 10 days out from show
    700 mg win
    800 mg mast
    400 mg dnp - - stopping 8 days out from show
    200 mcg clen
    50 - 125 t3
    eca stack
    aromasin
    hgh 3 iu - stopping 10 days out from show

    and i think thats it:

    DNP diet is 50% carbs / 35% protein / 15% fats

    just mainly rotating calories low med high

    day1: 2530
    day2: 2835
    day3: 3150

    heres some input i found on insulin and dnp dosage:

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    "Insulin
    Insulin therapy is crucial to achieve the massive size exhibited by today's professional bodybuilders. However, extreme caution must be exercised when using insulin to avoid a dangerous drop in blood sugars. Compounding this problem is the fact that significant amounts of insulin must be used to achieve the desired effect. In my research, I've seen very few articles accurately state the amount of insulin that should be used to induce anabolism. Most articles quote figures that are next to useless, in the range of 1-3 iu's a few times a day. Realistically, insulin is most effective when used in the 30-40 iu's a day range, with some professional bodybuilders using 3 times that amount!

    Carbohydrates must be consumed every time a dose of insulin is administered. A good rule of thumb is to consume 10 grams of carbohydrates for every 1 iu of insulin that is used. Since most doses should be in the 10 iu range, you must consume 100 grams of carbohydrate to protect yourself from hypoglycemia. These carbs should consist of a combination of simple and complex carbs. A few examples of this would be eating a banana with rice or drinking fruit juice with a baked potato. It's imperative that you always have an emergency source of simple carbohydrates on you at all times, whether it be a soft drink, candy bar, or tube of glucose paste. It's also a good idea to inform the people around you that you are using insulin so they know what to do if you start acting funny. Simply tell people that you have been diagnosed as a diabetic and go over the symptoms of getting "low" with them. I go so far as to wear a medic alert bracelet stating I'm a diabetic. Lastly, you should obtain a glucagon pen in case you really get in trouble. Glucagon has the opposite effect of insulin and will cause a massive release of glycogen from your liver and muscle cells.

    While insulin will certainly cause anabolism, it also has a tendency to make you fat. The dosing schedule described in Part I of this article solves that dilemma. When insulin is used during a steroid cycle, the fat burning properties of the steroids keeps fat gain to a minimum. When it's used during the cleaning out period, the simultaneous use of DNP will actually cause a reduction in bodyfat while the insulin keeps the loss of lean body mass at a minimum."

  • #2
    Originally posted by branch View Post
    my current cycle is as follows:

    1 g test cyp - stopping 10 days out from show
    700 mg win
    800 mg mast
    400 mg dnp - - stopping 8 days out from show
    200 mcg clen
    50 - 125 t3
    eca stack
    aromasin
    hgh 3 iu - stopping 10 days out from show
    Personally, I would be running prop, tren, eq, winny, and gh. i would dump the dnp, slin and all that shit. its unnecessary and far to dangerous. i think your test and winny dosage is to high and your gh dose is to low..

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    • #3
      never have done dnp and slin together -- dangerous combo !!! so be careful

      winny at 700 mgs per week would kill my joints -


      i run everything right till i put my first coat of pro tan on -

      i also add in aldactone 10 days out at 100 mgs per day -

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      • #4
        ive been doin this for a while now, i know all about aas

        i was lookin for input on dnp n slin usage

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        • #5
          Originally posted by branch View Post
          ive been doin this for a while now, i know all about aas

          i was lookin for input on dnp n slin usage
          my input is its stupid. sorry. :noo:

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          • #6
            Agreed with bouncer. Where is pre contest benefit of using long acting test opposed to short like prop.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
              Personally, I would be running prop, tren, eq, winny, and gh. i would dump the dnp, slin and all that shit. its unnecessary and far to dangerous. i think your test and winny dosage is to high and your gh dose is to low..
              I'm totally on board with Bouncer on this one.

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              • #8
                branch how do you feel on all those compounds, dnp eca clen and t3?...sure seems like a recipe for disaster...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by al the chemist View Post
                  branch how do you feel on all those compounds, dnp eca clen and t3?...sure seems like a recipe for disaster...
                  yup.

                  branch, i suggest you read up on Tom Prince and Andreas Munzer to see what taking things to the extreme can lead too..

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                  • #10
                    Tremendous article on Tom Prince here:

                    When the posing stops: Tom Prince's kidneys failed him—his heart didn't | Flex | Find Articles at BNET

                    This extract below really gets me:


                    For better and, in the end, for worse, Prince had to push himself to the limit just to know where the limit was. I ask him again about his regrets. After a pause, Tom Prince, retired pro bodybuilder with both a graduate degree in English literature and a love of 450-pound shoulder presses, answers as only he can.

                    "I feel like Captain Ahab chasing Moby Dick. Eventually, after Moby Dick destroys the ship, Ahab dies never having figured out he can't win. That's why it's the great American tragedy. He doesn't realize he's going to die. He thinks he's going to win the whole time, though you know he's going to lose the whole time. Thinking back over 18 years and all the injuries and all the painkillers, anti-inflammatories, all that, I was doing everything I could to mask the pain, but eventually something had to break down. Something's going to go. I've been hearing that for eight years now, and they were right. I realize now I'm the star of my own tragedy. I chased the whale .... I chased the whale, and finally the whale attacked. And I basically only figured it out when it was too late."

                    Author's note: Of the top five heavyweights in the 1995 NPC Nationals, only Toney Freeman has not suffered a critical illness. Severely dehydrated, Edgar Fletcher had been rushed unconscious to a hospital during the 1993 USA Championships. Don Long had a kidney transplant in 2002. Curtis Leffler died of a heart attack in 1998; he was 36.

                    "All men live enveloped in whale-lines. All are born with halters round their necks; but it is only when caught in the swift, sudden turn of death, that mortals realize the silent, subtle, ever-present perils of life."

                    --Herman Melville, Moby Dick

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                    • #11
                      good post scrum.

                      is that both parts? i remember it being a 2 part article.

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                      • #12
                        It is a 5-pager. If you go to the link in my post, it takes you to the first page and then there are hyperlinks at the bottom to pages 2-5. The 5 pages seemed like a full article - it didn't mention that there was another part, so perhaps this online version is the combined version of the 2 parts in the print version.

                        It is a terrific read - very well written. I was especially impressed considering it was a Weider publication - the article almost sounded like something you would read in Sports Illustrated.

                        I have never taken any AAS in my life and never intend to, but it certainly made me sit back, take a deep breath and think about life, choices and what the pressure to succeed at all costs can do to someone.
                        Last edited by Scrumhalf; 05-29-09, 02:26 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
                          It is a 5-pager. If you go to the link in my post, it takes you to the first page and then there are hyperlinks at the bottom to pages 2-5. The 5 pages seemed like a full article - it didn't mention that there was another part, so perhaps this online version is the combined version of the 2 parts in the print version.

                          It is a terrific read - very well written. I was especially impressed considering it was a Weider publication - the article almost sounded like something you would read in Sports Illustrated.

                          I have never taken any AAS in my life and never intend to, but it certainly made me sit back, take a deep breath and think about life, choices and what the pressure to succeed at all costs can do to someone.
                          yea, it was a great article. it was a 2 parter in the mag. i think it was a follow up.

                          as far as the AAS side of things. he abused them. he never got his blood work. and he was using 20-30 ibuprofen tabs per day for years for pain. so as far as comparing him with a little cycle here and there.. forget about it. :)

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                          • #15
                            Out of the top five NPC guy only tony is well....that is disgusting ....what a fing shame:noo:

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