DNP and Insulin For Dramatic Results

[Scrumhalf]

scrum, you ever read these?

Facing the future: Mike Matarazzo after triple-bypass surgery | Flex | Find Articles at BNET

Mike Matarazzo's second chance: wisdom for those who have a first chance | Flex | Find Articles at BNET

No, I had not read those, thanks for posting the links! I really liked the 2nd article.

Bouncer, you have always said that the kind of drugs that the top competitors have to take make the whole thing not worth it. Mike Matarazzo pretty much echos that in the 2nd article:

I have so many memories of being alone in a hotel room the week, five days or two days before a contest, and doing unspeakable things to my body--steroids, growth hormones, diuretics--anything and everything that we as bodybuilders do to achieve a certain look. The greatest danger, though, is that, while dieting and training stay the same through the years, there's a compulsion to experiment more wildly with chemicals. Every day, guys are on the phone asking who's using what, where are they getting it, how are they mixing it?............

If I could go back in time, those things never would have happened. I would have gone back to driving a truck. I have no doubt in my mind that the primary cause of my problem--the biggest thing--was the chemicals.......

Put it away. Only a handful of men on this entire planet make barely a decent living at bodybuilding. I happened to be one who did for 15 years, but I probably took 20 years off my life. No amount of money in the world is worth that. I'd rather go back in time and get a nine-to-five job and live to a ripe old age, like my grandfather......

Furthermore, I was on the lighter end of the scale of doing things to myself. I had opportunities to do a lot more to myself chemically, but I didn't; yet, I still got hurt. I never did insulin, but guys these days are doing insulin like it's water. Some take a shot with every meal. That's insane, and it's the luck of the draw whether it'll [hurt] you or the next guy.

[Bouncer]

No, I had not read those, thanks for posting the links! I really liked the 2nd article.

Bouncer, you have always said that the kind of drugs that the top competitors have to take make the whole thing not worth it. Mike Matarazzo pretty much echos that in the 2nd article:

I have so many memories of being alone in a hotel room the week, five days or two days before a contest, and doing unspeakable things to my body--steroids, growth hormones, diuretics--anything and everything that we as bodybuilders do to achieve a certain look. The greatest danger, though, is that, while dieting and training stay the same through the years, there's a compulsion to experiment more wildly with chemicals. Every day, guys are on the phone asking who's using what, where are they getting it, how are they mixing it?............

If I could go back in time, those things never would have happened. I would have gone back to driving a truck. I have no doubt in my mind that the primary cause of my problem--the biggest thing--was the chemicals.......

Put it away. Only a handful of men on this entire planet make barely a decent living at bodybuilding. I happened to be one who did for 15 years, but I probably took 20 years off my life. No amount of money in the world is worth that. I'd rather go back in time and get a nine-to-five job and live to a ripe old age, like my grandfather......

Furthermore, I was on the lighter end of the scale of doing things to myself. I had opportunities to do a lot more to myself chemically, but I didn't; yet, I still got hurt. I never did insulin, but guys these days are doing insulin like it's water. Some take a shot with every meal. That's insane, and it's the luck of the draw whether it'll [hurt] you or the next guy.

yup, even local level guys using shit that will fucken destroy you. just look at the poster of this thread.

[bigscott]

Agreed with bouncer. Where is pre contest benefit of using long acting test opposed to short like prop.

test is test -- i run test enanthate right till i put my first coat of protan on -- its all about the diet --

[Bouncer]

test is test -- i run test enanthate right till i put my first coat of protan on -- its all about the diet --

test is test but different esters will change the way your body holds water.

of course that point is moot when diuretic use involved.

[bigscott]

test is test but different esters will change the way your body holds water.

of course that point is moot when diuretic use involved.

agreed !

[curtus e flush]

This guy takes all this shit and is 210....this is kinda strange

[Bouncer]

This guy takes all this shit and is 210....this is kinda strange

maybe he is 5 foot tall :thumup: