EQ=???

[rude]

Okay...
I have been wanting to start my first "real" cycle but I had to wait (I actually got shut down by a var only cycle, didnt do pct, thought it wasnt needed,was wrong) so I decided to wait till my libedo was back. Well, my libedo seems to be back to normal, my question is will doing a EQ and var cycle shut me down? Im not going to use test for this first cycle, maybe later but not this time. Im not expecting a major weight gain or anything like that, just a reasonable amount of lean muscle mass. But is my libedo safe, I really, really dont want to have problems with my libedo, any thoughts?

My cycle would look like this
EQ wk1-12 400mg
Var wk 8-12 35mg a day

[Doom]

yes, the eq will shut down natty test production

[jipped genes]

by the end brother you will have a limp dick. without externaltest coming in thats the end result. at the least do 200-300 mg of enanthate you wont notice much in the way of sides at that low dose.

[rude]

Originally posted by GymChic
Why are you not wanting to run a test cycle?

Dont like the bloat it gives (my bro got it bad and he took that l-dex, still had a good sized bloat) plus im not really looking to add a lot of size since I already look pretty big

[rude]

Originally posted by jipped genes
by the end brother you will have a limp dick. without externaltest coming in thats the end result. at the least do 200-300 mg of enanthate you wont notice much in the way of sides at that low dose.

but isnt EQ test based, why would it cuz a problem to the libedo?
See thats what I dont want... a limp dick :( Is their anything I could do that would not cuz a limp dick without test?

[Doom]

ok bro, heres what you may not be fully understanding, the introduction of any form foreign substance in the body will inaverantly shut down the bodys production of such substance, and feed off what you are putting into it......for example, when using testosterone, the body stops its production, and senses the overload of the test in the system, it feeds of the test you are putting in chemically therefore releasing more estrogen to combat the prblem and waaaalaaa, a good chance for gyno...

Without going way off point here, anything you put in the body is gonna cause some form of interruption of the bodys natural process

you could get away with using phenylpropinate, at 300mgs a wek, so you have close to what the body would produce natural per week, along with proviron, which is good for sex drive and does help somewhat as an anti-e, 25-50mgs ed, for about 8 weeks

[rude]

Originally posted by Doom
ok bro, heres what you may not be fully understanding, the introduction of any form foreign substance in the body will inaverantly shut down the bodys production of such substance, and feed off what you are putting into it......for example, when using testosterone, the body stops its production, and senses the overload of the test in the system, it feeds of the test you are putting in chemically therefore releasing more estrogen to combat the prblem and waaaalaaa, a good chance for gyno...

Without going way off point here, anything you put in the body is gonna cause some form of interruption of the bodys natural process

you could get away with using phenylpropinate, at 300mgs a wek, so you have close to what the body would produce natural per week, along with proviron, which is good for sex drive and does help somewhat as an anti-e, 25-50mgs ed, for about 8 weeks

Cool, good post doom. I'll think of all of that :)

[Doom]

good man, phenylprop is a tad longer than prop, so instead of eod injects, you could most likely get away with e3d injects

good luck to ya

[rude]

Originally posted by Doom
good man, phenylprop is a tad longer than prop, so instead of eod injects, you could most likely get away with e3d injects

good luck to ya

thanks :)

[LeX19]

what company has phenylpropinate ?

[Doom]

testolent is a form of phenylprop
BM pahrms out of india makes nadrolone with a phenylprop ester..extremely fast acting deca

just do a search on google, and u'll find some brand names, I dont think there is any vet version of it, only human grade

[6p6]

A long time ago I did a couple of EQ only cycles and at the 6 wk point my sex drive fell off the face of the planet....use test even just enough to keep it up to normal levels....I have a bro who doesn't like to run test in large amount so he uses 1 250mg shot per week to keep things around the normal level....If you don't use test invest in cialis or viagra!!!!

Doom's suggestion of proviron is on the money, it works!!!

[jack hust]

you must use test imho

[Bruce Banner]

You should be running test with it....

About your brother.... You said he got a large amount of bloat from test..... Well.... You should know that the amount of bloat that you get from test depends largely on your diet, and what if any anti-e's you are using..... You said he was using L-dex, which is a good product... but how much was he using?? I would also be interested to see what his diet was like...... Because there must be a reason that he got a lot of bloat.....
Lots of guys run test and get very minimal bloat, so it can be done.

[Stonecold54]

my very first test cycle I got bloated off but after that I never really got it again. I am now on 1500 mg a week and I don't get much of anything as far as bloat. I say you will never know unless you try it. everyone is not the same. good luck to you. Eq is the shit though if you get some test to go with it. I wish I had a needle right now. I love injecting. :D