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  • #16
    Originally posted by the art of war View Post
    That's what I expected to find sadly. I was at a cyclecross race and one of the dudes just went under off the first peddle. Convulsed for like 30 minutes and that was that dead at like 20 filled with a fucking chemistry kit... they found a shit ton of dexedrine in his immediate tox screen and a ton of other narcs(prolly just to tune down to try and sleep).. but in his car he slin/hgh/tren in the trunk . This is just one of hundreds of people who have died in this sort of sport, cycling seems so far away from bb'ing but they dedicate themselves the same way as it seems these pros do, and they certainly know what can happen.
    wow, thats really bad 20 yrs old, stuff that choose life, 2nd place is fine

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    • #17
      that's why my boy may never win the tour but he is one of the most fit people I've ever seen.. and he is happy with life, which you cannot put a $ tag on. I used to pace him at 20-25mph in new hampshire ... some of the hill climbs at like 10% mile and half long I could barely believe how effortlessly he pulled it. But that's what food+sleep+ 6 hours of training a day do. Again going back to the most basic substances for, if nothing else, success in your own abilities w/out PEDs.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by the art of war View Post
        that's why my boy may never win the tour but he is one of the most fit people I've ever seen.. and he is happy with life, which you cannot put a $ tag on. I used to pace him at 20-25mph in new hampshire ... some of the hill climbs at like 10% mile and half long I could barely believe how effortlessly he pulled it. But that's what food+sleep+ 6 hours of training a day do. Again going back to the most basic substances for, if nothing else, success in your own abilities w/out PEDs.
        Exactly success is more about getting the basics right and putting in the work than loading up with shit where it becomes complicated and potentially dangerous.

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        • #19
          I remember Barry Bonds used to be pretty good before balco existed.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by the art of war View Post
            That's what I expected to find sadly. I was at a cyclecross race and one of the dudes just went under off the first peddle. Convulsed for like 30 minutes and that was that dead at like 20 filled with a fucking chemistry kit... they found a shit ton of dexedrine in his immediate tox screen and a ton of other narcs(prolly just to tune down to try and sleep).. but in his car he slin/hgh/tren in the trunk . This is just one of hundreds of people who have died in this sort of sport, cycling seems so far away from bb'ing but they dedicate themselves the same way as it seems these pros do, and they certainly know what can happen.
            thats why i have pretty much turned my back on pro bodybuilding. i love the bodybuilding that was in the movie pumping iron. i love the bodybuilding where you can take some test, a little gh, and some dbol. i love the bodybuilding where you go to the gym and feel like a million bucks.

            i hate the bodybuilding that has people that have nothing to do with bodybuilding giving me advice.. the creepy old guys and stalker types.... the drugs that are more at home in a fucken harlem drug house... the kissing ass you gotta do to be in the mags and have people know your name...

            i choose the bodybuilding that i love. not this piss that they call Pro Bodybuilding. there is no activity in the world as dirty as pro bodybuilding. trust me.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
              thats why i have pretty much turned my back on pro bodybuilding. i love the bodybuilding that was in the movie pumping iron. i love the bodybuilding where you can take some test, a little gh, and some dbol. i love the bodybuilding where you go to the gym and feel like a million bucks.

              i hate the bodybuilding that has people that have nothing to do with bodybuilding giving me advice.. the creepy old guys and stalker types.... the drugs that are more at home in a fucken harlem drug house... the kissing ass you gotta do to be in the mags and have people know your name...

              i choose the bodybuilding that i love. not this piss that they call Pro Bodybuilding. there is no activity in the world as dirty as pro bodybuilding. trust me.
              Pumping iron really is the life, numero uno and enjoying every minute of life being swole and content. Plus tommy chong and arnold used to chill... I can only immagine those parties.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by the art of war View Post
                Pumping iron really is the life, numero uno and enjoying every minute of life being swole and content. Plus tommy chong and arnold used to chill... I can only immagine those parties.
                yup, that is the way to live life. enjoy it, train hard, a little AAS here and there, eat good, etc..

                no need to get more complicated then that.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
                  yup, that is the way to live life. enjoy it, train hard, a little AAS here and there, eat good, etc..

                  no need to get more complicated then that.
                  yep thats where bodybuilding really is bodybuilding and not body harming

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Mr incredible View Post
                    yep thats where bodybuilding really is bodybuilding and not body harming
                    yup, and also for the mental aspect.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
                      yup, and also for the mental aspect.
                      I could barely stop shaking from these RLS w/ds but I lifted today anyway and it was the only time I felt totally free again, the mental aspect is increasingly becoming apparent to me... honestly I can't wait to just run some test n dbol but at 23 I still make solid gains w/a decent diet and not being a fucking moron lol.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by the art of war View Post
                        I could barely stop shaking from these RLS w/ds but I lifted today anyway and it was the only time I felt totally free again, the mental aspect is increasingly becoming apparent to me... honestly I can't wait to just run some test n dbol but at 23 I still make solid gains w/a decent diet and not being a fucking moron lol.
                        oh i hear ya brother.

                        i have had days were i am just pissed/ stressed out. i get to the gym and i am calm.

                        no doubt about it, it is a therapy.

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                        • #27
                          I imagine soon enough somethings gotta give, I rarely see people saying they like where bodybuilding is going, they always are saying it needs to get back to what it once was.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Konitz View Post
                            I imagine soon enough somethings gotta give, I rarely see people saying they like where bodybuilding is going, they always are saying it needs to get back to what it once was.
                            yeah and france is gonna shut down the tour because lance armstrong came in 3rd. Won't happen bro, their may be a split in lifestyle between what we see in pros now and the people who live bodybuilding for a choice but I highly doubt anyone that devoted/addicted to their trade will ever stop pushing to be more of a freak. Over the past year xgames have lost one person already and yet they keep going bigger and bigger.... aslong as the market is there so will the people.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by the art of war View Post
                              yeah and france is gonna shut down the tour because lance armstrong came in 3rd. Won't happen bro, their may be a split in lifestyle between what we see in pros now and the people who live bodybuilding for a choice but I highly doubt anyone that devoted/addicted to their trade will ever stop pushing to be more of a freak. Over the past year xgames have lost one person already and yet they keep going bigger and bigger.... aslong as the market is there so will the people.
                              The pro's will go where their sponsors push them, if the companies realize they can sell more product with representatives looking more like the old school bodybuilders, then that is who they will sponsor, and I doubt many Pro BBers could afford their meds without having all the sponsors. BBing is a business just like anything else.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Konitz View Post
                                I imagine soon enough somethings gotta give, I rarely see people saying they like where bodybuilding is going, they always are saying it needs to get back to what it once was.
                                It already is, looked who they picked to win Olympia last year

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