Proviron

[funniirishman]

Curious on your thoughts of a lean gain cycle of maybe test-e 250/300 a week and proviron at 25mg a day, for ten weeks. Yes I know the test is running light but huge isn't what we are looking for at the end of this

The thought here is to hang on to lean gains and lose as little gain as possible while trimming fat and incorporating PCT accordingly to help with this (probably Nolva). Again, not a bulker but thinking it may trim some fat away with proper diet and training of course. Was thinking maybe Winny or Var on the back end? Have never ran proviron so any thoughts are welcome.

Thanks FI

[Bouncer]

Its a light cycle but yea on a good diet i think you could achiever your goal easily.

[funniirishman]

thanks Bouncer appreciate it. I am thinking I may just stick with these two, I cant really see a reason to add another compound, at least not one that would focus on what I am looking for...but I have been curious on what folks wiser than I think about adding maybe Winny for the last six weeks? My thought is that this cycle and a high protein/low carb diet with proper PCT should allow me to lean out and keep a majority of the gains I get...?

[Ashop]

Curious on your thoughts of a lean gain cycle of maybe test-e 250/300 a week and proviron at 25mg a day, for ten weeks. Yes I know the test is running light but huge isn't what we are looking for at the end of this

The thought here is to hang on to lean gains and lose as little gain as possible while trimming fat and incorporating PCT accordingly to help with this (probably Nolva). Again, not a bulker but thinking it may trim some fat away with proper diet and training of course. Was thinking maybe Winny or Var on the back end? Have never ran proviron so any thoughts are welcome.

Thanks FI

PROVIRON has a lot of benefits like freeing bound testosterone,,libido,,muscle hardness,,and works as mild anti E.

As far as getting size or big gains with PROVIRON,,your not goin to see them with this AAS.

[Bouncer]

thanks Bouncer appreciate it. I am thinking I may just stick with these two, I cant really see a reason to add another compound, at least not one that would focus on what I am looking for...but I have been curious on what folks wiser than I think about adding maybe Winny for the last six weeks? My thought is that this cycle and a high protein/low carb diet with proper PCT should allow me to lean out and keep a majority of the gains I get...?

winny has 2 sides.

it can give your body a harder appearance and much like provirion it make test work better.

but if your like me, it will also dry your joints out so bad your strength will plummet because of the pain. i cant use winny.

[funniirishman]

I'm not looking for huge gains on this, I would be happy with 10-15 pounds of lmm that I can keep at the end of the day and leaning out quite a bit.

I got a recommendation regarding this to increase the test to 350 and to run the winny at the front end of it at 25/50 per day. Having never run it, I am not sure how I will react, or if I should run it on the front or back end. I do know I would run it for 6wks max..think it would help in the end or is it unnecessary with this particular plan?

[Bouncer]

I'm not looking for huge gains on this, I would be happy with 10-15 pounds of lmm that I can keep at the end of the day and leaning out quite a bit.

I got a recommendation regarding this to increase the test to 350 and to run the winny at the front end of it at 25/50 per day. Having never run it, I am not sure how I will react, or if I should run it on the front or back end. I do know I would run it for 6wks max..think it would help in the end or is it unnecessary with this particular plan?

i can just say that i wouldnt do it. dont like winny much.

[funniirishman]

So in the end I decided I am going to bump the test to 350 (still light) and proviron 25 ed..I am going to try running winny on the back six weeks and have nolva on hand and as PCT. May also run HCG as well toward the end

Diet I am trying to decide between limiting to about 80g a day with a carb load day or overall running around 120 or so to avoid ket. Keeping calories at around 2200-2500 a day.

[Bouncer]

So in the end I decided I am going to bump the test to 350 (still light) and proviron 25 ed..I am going to try running winny on the back six weeks and have nolva on hand and as PCT. May also run HCG as well toward the end

Diet I am trying to decide between limiting to about 80g a day with a carb load day or overall running around 120 or so to avoid ket. Keeping calories at around 2200-2500 a day.

sounds good to me.

[funniirishman]

I got some advice today that 6 weeks of Winny (oral) at 25 was to short and I should extend it to eight weeks to be most effective. Having never run it before I am looking for some input on this from those in the know, Im not sure the benefits would outweigh the toxicity concerns. Also it was recommended that armidex would be better to run instead of proviron...which I am not sure I agree with due to toxicity issues or running winny concurrently. Anyway, as usual when looking for some information I come here...any thoughts?

[Bouncer]

I got some advice today that 6 weeks of Winny (oral) at 25 was to short and I should extend it to eight weeks to be most effective. Having never run it before I am looking for some input on this from those in the know, Im not sure the benefits would outweigh the toxicity concerns. Also it was recommended that armidex would be better to run instead of proviron...which I am not sure I agree with due to toxicity issues or running winny concurrently. Anyway, as usual when looking for some information I come here...any thoughts?

who gave you that advice? lol.

winny at 6 weeks is perfect.

if you have gyno issues, yes arimadex would be better, but if you dont proviron is more beneficial with the test and winny.

[funniirishman]

Right on, I figured as much..the source wasn't anyone I felt was credible but just thought I would check..looks like I am right on with what I need to be doing. Thanks

[bigscott]

I got some advice today that 6 weeks of Winny (oral) at 25 was to short and I should extend it to eight weeks to be most effective. Having never run it before I am looking for some input on this from those in the know, Im not sure the benefits would outweigh the toxicity concerns. Also it was recommended that armidex would be better to run instead of proviron...which I am not sure I agree with due to toxicity issues or running winny concurrently. Anyway, as usual when looking for some information I come here...any thoughts?

what your doing is fine and those that say adex is better do not know much about provirons benefits .

i would however bump the proviron to 50 mgs to maximize its benefits . i will be running proviron myself soon as i love the stuff :)