Longer cycles

[hairdoyler]

Ok

New to this forum so hello folks

I normally do 8/10 and longest 12 weeks cycles and have done a few variations

normally just as I am coming to the end of a cycle and the results really start to show and it times to come off it...

Am thinking and under the supervision of a experienced body builder to do a 22 weeks cycle and see how far I can go

what do people think of the longer cycles ?

also ALWAYS tamoxifien but for this cycle was told not too unless I feel estrogen effects

what all ya think?


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[CrankinSteiN]

Longer cycles can be benificial if they are done correctly but I would recommend using some HCG during the cycle to keep the boys awake.... Also you should be prepared because it will most likely take you longer to recover from the longer cycle.

I agree if your goal is to gain mass then you should leave out the nolva unless you start to get estrogen sides like gyno that you need to deal with and then you can throw the nolva in to take care of it

[hairdoyler]

cheers mate...

yeah want to gain a bit more size

what do you mean by recover as I think I know most risks

[Bouncer]

i used to do long cycles.

not worth it IMO. you get used to it physically and mentally. when its time to come off you crahs hard no matter how good your pct.

i say 12 week cycles are perfect.

[hairdoyler]

exactly what are all the side effect and recovery from a longer cycle once you come off it and do the perfect pct?

[Bouncer]

like rado said, everyone is different.

main thing for me was mental. i was so used to being on that i forgot what it was like to be natural.

[hairdoyler]

cheers bouncer had below written before I seen your post

I definitely know where your coming from with that.........




And some examples of coming off the longer cycles,what side effect

have always done up to 12 weeks and never had any noticable side effects when on pct and then takig a while off

hope its similar with the longer cycles

[Bouncer]

cheers bouncer had below written before I seen your post

I definitely know where your coming from with that.........




And some examples of coming off the longer cycles,what side effect

have always done up to 12 weeks and never had any noticable side effects when on pct and then takig a while off

hope its similar with the longer cycles

my advise is to really listen to your body.

if you are 16 weeks into a long cycle and you really aren't seeing any more gains, the smart thing to do would be to just stop the cycle instead of blindly continuing on for no reason.

[ROCKETW19]

my advise is to really listen to your body.

if you are 16 weeks into a long cycle and you really aren't seeing any more gains, the smart thing to do would be to just stop the cycle instead of blindly continuing on for no reason.

Yep 16 weeks is best for most people! of coarse depending on the steroid. what were the steroids used on your 8-10 week cycles? If you were just seeing results I bet you were taking slow acting gear like test E or something?

[hairdoyler]

did oral cycles dbol and winny

then moved onto dbol and test

last cycle was injectables

winstrol every 3rd day
sustenon and deca every 5th day
always tamoxifen each day(which i wil leave out for the next cycle)

did this cycle for 12 weeks..

[Ashop]

i used to do long cycles.

not worth it IMO. you get used to it physically and mentally. when its time to come off you crahs hard no matter how good your pct.

i say 12 week cycles are perfect.

I think 12-16 weeks cycles are more then plenty. Especially for the recreational bodybuilder.

[dna9488]

Are there any studies that show the difference between long cycles vs short cycles?

[Raider80]

I did a 6 month cycle earlyer this year... March - August.. I am not goin for body building, but rather power lifting.. The only side effect I had was hair growth. I did get a bump in bp.. 140/90, but nothing to bad...

I then did 5 weeks of primo.. One shot a week slowly droppin cc's till nothing and to be honest guys, I saw no sides... my balls shrunk while on, but thats what they do... they have since come back, but really I never kept a measurment of their circumfrance so I could not tell you if they are as round and full as they used to be.

After coming off I kept in the gym, never slowed down... this is my year baby..

I then took 3 weeks off with nothing. I teamed up with a local supllement company and am having issues big time with bp... 160/111. I ran this tren over the counter stuff for a week and had to stop.. my god the headaches where killer... the next day after stoppin, bp 124/82... couldnt believe it. Also, I should let you know I did a full blood panel and it came back good 3 weeks after last primo shot.

I since tried another overcounter supplement but BP is back to 150/100... F*&K, I say.. I have another six month cycle in the can... sust and eq with dbol off bat... I will be gettin geared up for it...

I see on hear people don't wanna make look rado good, but he is right.. each body take stuff diffrently... when I am on legit stuff... just hair growth, when I am on over the counter, my god.. my body goes HAY WIRE....

good luck bro ...

[hairdoyler]

cheers everyone for response...

fourth day in .......!!

[Bouncer]

I did a 6 month cycle earlyer this year... March - August.. I am not goin for body building, but rather power lifting.. The only side effect I had was hair growth. I did get a bump in bp.. 140/90, but nothing to bad...

I then did 5 weeks of primo.. One shot a week slowly droppin cc's till nothing and to be honest guys, I saw no sides... my balls shrunk while on, but thats what they do... they have since come back, but really I never kept a measurment of their circumfrance so I could not tell you if they are as round and full as they used to be.

After coming off I kept in the gym, never slowed down... this is my year baby..

I then took 3 weeks off with nothing. I teamed up with a local supllement company and am having issues big time with bp... 160/111. I ran this tren over the counter stuff for a week and had to stop.. my god the headaches where killer... the next day after stoppin, bp 124/82... couldnt believe it. Also, I should let you know I did a full blood panel and it came back good 3 weeks after last primo shot.

I since tried another overcounter supplement but BP is back to 150/100... F*&K, I say.. I have another six month cycle in the can... sust and eq with dbol off bat... I will be gettin geared up for it...

I see on hear people don't wanna make look rado good, but he is right.. each body take stuff diffrently... when I am on legit stuff... just hair growth, when I am on over the counter, my god.. my body goes HAY WIRE....

good luck bro ...

your problem is using over the counter none sense. some of that shit is worse then AAS. that is not the discussion.

the discussion is long cycles (6 months to a year) VS shorter cycles (12-16 weeks). no doubt about it, longer cycles will take longer to recover from then shorter ones. the other side to longer cycles is like I said, you get used to it. mentally and physically. you end up getting bored with it and you forget what natural is. come off and its like a punch in the face.