M-1-T Anabolic Profile Versus Primo (and Methyl Primo)...Vida Reference

[Chemo]

I have put together a quick reference for those wanting to research with the new methyl 1-test products that are coming out. This compound is completely new and this will allow for activity comparison between:

• 1-test versus methyl 1-test
  TAKE HOME LESSON: How 17a-methylation affects the anabolic profile of 1-test.
  
• 1-test versus Primo
  TAKE HOME LESSON: How 1-methylation affects the anabolic profile of 1-test.
  
• methyl 1-test versus Primo
  TAKE HOME LESSON: Effects of 1-methylation versus 17a-methylation.

This is an early release of a full write-up on the AA profile of methyl 1-test and does not include the notes/explanations/discussion/suggestion that the final version will have. I mainly wanted to get this info out here so that others may form an opinion which will be a vehicle for intelligent exchange of ideas or views. You have to see what I'm looking at before we can argue about it ;)


So, if you're interested in this subject matter then click on this link to download the Adobe PDF file. I warn you that it is nearly 300Kb so may take time to load on dial-up connections.


Humbly Submitted,

Chemo

[prolangtum]

Cool, gracias

[spidey]

I think this is a good idea. I have been interested in this issue for some time now. Please continue this study.

It seems that 1-methylation decreases androgenicity and increases anabolicity of a given steroid according to this data (if I am interpreting it correctly). I don't think this data really proves anything though as it is way too limited in scope. One needs to test many compounds; not just one or two. The one or two chosen could just be anomalies. There is only one direct comparison of 17-methylation (1-test vs. methyl-1-test) and one direct comparison of 1-methylation (1-test vs. primo). The latter example is really not even a direct comparison because the primo is an acetate ester and the 1-test is not.

Qualitatively, my own observations do support the premise that 1-methylation does decrease androgenicity. Primobolan is much less androgenic than 1-test and proviron is much less androgenic than DHT. In both cases, the only difference between the respective pairs of steroids is that one is 1-methylated. The effect of 1-methylation on anabolic character is a little more ambiguous. While primo is rumored to be roughly 5 times as anabolic as test, 1-test has been shown by some studies to be between 4 and 7 times as anabolic as test so the two are in the same region (5 is between 4 and 7). I have not seen any data comparing 1-methyl-DHT (proviron) to DHT (more or less anabolic?)

It also follows my observations that 17-methylation raises androgenicity. Examples: dbol is much more androgenic than boldenone and methyltest is more androgenic than test. However, I have mixed observations about the effect of 17-alkylation on anabolism. Dbol is more anabolic than boldenone BUT methyltest is less anabolic than test (I think).

It will be interesting to see more data on this.

[jipped genes]

damn thats some shit. i am not good at chemistry or molecular weights anything like that but i do like reading about it. school me!

[Power Nutrition]

Thanks for the info Chemo. This should prove to be an excellent thread.

[monroe]

thanks chemo, good work.

[Power Nutrition]

^^

[YellowJacket]

up.

[prolangtum]

sideways

[teekahty]

Holy shit i can't believe I missed this ,, Thanks for the Bump ... Chemo ,,, Very Nice!!!!!

[6p6]

very nice...

[spidey]

I would really be interested in seeing some data on a 17-alkylated primobolin (methenolone).

[bigfishe]

Great read keep it up!