joints on winny

[the art of war]

Unbelievable how this shit makes me feel - everything pops like crazy - I like the drug don't get me wrong - but these sides are a bitch. I'm taking gluc and msm supp - is there anything else you guys take with it ? I doubt I'll run it again honestly, I'm only few days into it and it makes me feel like an old shit lol.

[Bouncer]

get of it. will get way worse.. winny is shit IMO

[the art of war]

what about adding some deca @ a low dose ?

[Bouncer]

what about adding some deca @ a low dose ?

winny fucks your joints up. makes them brittle. deca does nothing for that. deca just lubes the joints. all deca would do is lube the brittle joints caused by winny.

im telling ya, get off the shit. if you are hurting now this early on you will regret using it.

[the art of war]

winny fucks your joints up. makes them brittle. deca does nothing for that. deca just lubes the joints. all deca would do is lube the brittle joints caused by winny.

im telling ya, get off the shit. if you are hurting now this early on you will regret using it.

gotcha - I could switch over to the var instead - I was taking 50mg of win, I've never ran either - how high should I start w/var ? 40mg ?

[jack tors]

get of it. will get way worse.. winny is shit IMO

:agreed:

[Mr I]

Hahaha! we told ya so!

yeah, some run medicinal dose of deca with it to try counter, others do weeks of high dose glucosamine before and during. I used to like winny but then suffered a couple injuries on it and now in my 30's tried in recently for the last time.

Dump it now as B says, sides will only get worse, soon you will have to drop the weight

[New_Mass]

I guess the best time to run winny for the look it gives you would be the last weeks of a cutting phase when your not trying to lift crazy heavy , lay your foundation with other anabolics then towards the end when you have achieved your gains run winny

[liftsiron]

winny fucks your joints up. makes them brittle. deca does nothing for that. deca just lubes the joints. all deca would do is lube the brittle joints caused by winny.

im telling ya, get off the shit. if you are hurting now this early on you will regret using it.

True winny increases production of typeII cartilage which is thick and brittle. Deca doesn't lube the joints by increasing water retention, if that were the case test would make your joints feel better than deca. Deca has an extreme anti inflammatory effect on connective tissue, this is speculated to come about through the cell mediated immune system. Deca can actually contribute to the healing of connective tissue as well as making weak bones stronger. I agree winny is shit.

[the art of war]

Hahaha! we told ya so!

yeah, some run medicinal dose of deca with it to try counter, others do weeks of high dose glucosamine before and during. I used to like winny but then suffered a couple injuries on it and now in my 30's tried in recently for the last time.

Dump it now as B says, sides will only get worse, soon you will have to drop the weight

you enjoy this way too much :weights:

I guess the best time to run winny for the look it gives you would be the last weeks of a cutting phase when your not trying to lift crazy heavy , lay your foundation with other anabolics then towards the end when you have achieved your gains run winny

yeah - just gonna hold on to it for now , I like the results but the joint sides are ridiculous, not gonna go around feelin like I'm 90 when I can get similar affects with another compound.

[1badMF]

Wow. I don't ever have a problem with joints on winny but I only take 50mg orally a day and I love the stuff. If only it were not toxic and I could cycle it longer.

[the art of war]

I was only on 50mg myself bro - I don't sweat the liver toxicity that much, how long d oyou run ? I was gonna do 6 weeks but now with the joints not gonna happen. Subbing var @ 40-50mg for 8 weeks, prop base.

[1badMF]

i do 6 weeks at start of a cycle that usually always includes test and deca or eq. I take a break from winny (6 weeks or longer) and use it again towards the last six weeks of my test/deca. I do take vitamins, herbs, and multi vitamins which gives me my needed calcium, magnesium, and glucosamine every day. I also tape my wrists and practice on form as much as possible. Avoiding things like locking knees after coming up from a squat on legs for example.

[Ashop]

Unbelievable how this shit makes me feel - everything pops like crazy - I like the drug don't get me wrong - but these sides are a bitch. I'm taking gluc and msm supp - is there anything else you guys take with it ? I doubt I'll run it again honestly, I'm only few days into it and it makes me feel like an old shit lol.

Ive never had problems like that with WINSTROL but looking back I used DECA with it almost every time.