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    Ok fellas, I have a bit of a problem at the moment. I am currently using Prop EOD and EQ EW and pinning with a 22 gauge 1.5". Well I have been experiencing an enormous amount of pain at the injection sites. When I took my first pin of Prop, yeah it burned and then it caused my muscle to knot up for a few days and hurt like hell. This has happened to both cheeks now. So, I tried using my delts which WAS a HUGE mistake! My right one took the half CC like a champ but my left, well it has caused some muscle trauma. There is a knot that runs from about the middle of my delt to where my shoulder and bicep meet. Now, I play softball and immediately went out hitting after the pinnings, could this have irritated the site? Or is there something more severe goin on here? I've ordered smaller pins to see if that makes a difference and I've also warmed the vials to thin it out. Any help fellas would be greatly appreciated.

  • #2
    you could definitely use smaller pins but i dont think thats the problem.

    sounds like your gear has too much BA alcohol in it thus causing swelling and knots etc..

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    • #3
      So what can i do then bro? I've read about using a sterile oil to cut it or will my muscle eventually become used to it? I just don't understand why my left delt responded that way and my right was cool.

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      • #4
        Maybe you moved the needle around too much in the tissue; irritated a nerve? doesn't vitamin b12 cure this problem?

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        • #5
          vitamin b12 injections or liquid? I thought that i hit a nerve too, it's gettin a little better with ice and heat over and over and over...i just know that i'll never shoot in my delt again and not shootin again til i get a smaller pin! Thanks for the info though bro

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          • #6
            yea, you could cut it with oil etc.. could also use b12 for injection.

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            • #7
              Next time ditch the prop and get test E or C you wont have these problems.
              Softball? do you play turnys? what level?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Texas792803 View Post
                Ok fellas, I have a bit of a problem at the moment. I am currently using Prop EOD and EQ EW and pinning with a 22 gauge 1.5". Well I have been experiencing an enormous amount of pain at the injection sites. When I took my first pin of Prop, yeah it burned and then it caused my muscle to knot up for a few days and hurt like hell. This has happened to both cheeks now. So, I tried using my delts which WAS a HUGE mistake! My right one took the half CC like a champ but my left, well it has caused some muscle trauma. There is a knot that runs from about the middle of my delt to where my shoulder and bicep meet. Now, I play softball and immediately went out hitting after the pinnings, could this have irritated the site? Or is there something more severe goin on here? I've ordered smaller pins to see if that makes a difference and I've also warmed the vials to thin it out. Any help fellas would be greatly appreciated.
                I would take some ALEVE and see how it feels in a day or so.

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                • #9
                  thanks for all the info guys, the swelling in my shoulder has gone down and is doing a lot better. No infection which is awesome. I did end up with a nickle size bruise at the further down my arm, awaty from the injection site. I've never used Prop before and have heard nothing but great things other than this part obviously. Debating whether to ditch it all together or go down in dose. Any input fellas? I play D and some tourneys. you?

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                  • #10
                    So i can cut it with b12 or did i read that wrong? where can i find sterile oil and what name is it under?

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                    • #11
                      if it were me i would ditch it.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Texas792803 View Post
                        So i can cut it with b12 or did i read that wrong? where can i find sterile oil and what name is it under?
                        Vitamin B12 Injectable Cyanocobalamin 1000mcg/ml

                        Cottonseed Oil USP 100 mL

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                        • #13
                          i also heard that i could heat it up to the point of the oil coming to a slight boil and putting the needle in the stopper allowing air to escape would help cook off some of the BA,,,any takes on this? Im using EQ with it but hate to just run EQ for the next few months so I'm trying to exhaust every option before just tossing it but i do appreciate the insight bro

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                          • #14
                            also, when cutting it with the cotton oil, is the ratio 1:1? once i have both drawn into the syringe is there any other instruction on mixing it or just go on and inject away?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Texas792803 View Post
                              also, when cutting it with the cotton oil, is the ratio 1:1? once i have both drawn into the syringe is there any other instruction on mixing it or just go on and inject away?
                              use the b12 and use half a cc per ml of test.

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