On my 2nd cycle...

[ken69]

Good day Guru's!

Its been a long time.So finally my next cycle goes like this, Ill be needing your opinions...

Weeks
1-8 Sustanon 250mg (MWF inj. total of 750mg/week)
1-4 Dbol at 50mg/day
1-8 Tamoxifen at 20mg/all through out till pct as I am susceptible to gyno
7-8 Clen 20 20 40 40 60 60 80 80 60 60 40 40 20 20

PCT (after 3 weeks from last inj. of Sustanon)
IGF LR3 80mcg split i.m
300mg 1st day Clomid
200mg 2nd day Clomid
100mg 3rd day Clomid
50mg for 1 week Clomid
25mg for 2 week Clomid

My question is, will it be ok if i use winstrol only after last injection of Sustanon at 75mg/daily for 3 to 4 weeks? I was just thinking if it will help me cut my gains from the 8 week Sustanon cycle.

Reason for this is that im going for a vacation after 8 weeks and thats how I can only get a hold of some winstrol.

I need your opinions on this one guru's!Thank you so much!

[ROCKETW19]

Good day Guru's!

Its been a long time.So finally my next cycle goes like this, Ill be needing your opinions...

Weeks
1-8 Sustanon 250mg (MWF inj. total of 750mg/week)
1-4 Dbol at 50mg/day
1-8 Tamoxifen at 20mg/all through out till pct as I am susceptible to gyno
7-8 Clen 20 20 40 40 60 60 80 80 60 60 40 40 20 20

PCT (after 3 weeks from last inj. of Sustanon)
IGF LR3 80mcg split i.m
300mg 1st day Clomid
200mg 2nd day Clomid
100mg 3rd day Clomid
50mg for 1 week Clomid
25mg for 2 week Clomid

My question is, will it be ok if i use winstrol only after last injection of Sustanon at 75mg/daily for 3 to 4 weeks? I was just thinking if it will help me cut my gains from the 8 week Sustanon cycle.

Reason for this is that im going for a vacation after 8 weeks and thats how I can only get a hold of some winstrol.

I need your opinions on this one guru's!Thank you so much!

What was your first cycle?
8 weeks sust is a bit short IMO. most of the drug is slow acting and cutting it off at 8 weeks wont give it time to fully work. I would go 10 at the very least but 12 -16 would be best.
I would also either add in nolva for PCT or just use nolva for PCT 40mgs for 2 weeks 20 mgs for 3 weeks
running winny only will keep you shut down and you would have to wait on your PCT if the winny is oral its only a few days "I think 4?"

[ken69]

Rocketw19
First cycle was 4 months ago:
1-12 test e 500mg/weekly
1-4 dbol 40mg/daily
1-10 deca 400mg/weekly

If I extend to 12 weeks with sustanon, isnt it too harsh?Or should I incorporate using 1000i.u of HCG everyweek?

Im planning on doing this 12 week now then I will add stanozolol,which will be like this...

1-12 sus 750mg/weekly
1-4 dbol 50mg/daily
5-10 stanozolol at 50mg/daily

Please tell me what you think of this,many thanks for your immediate response!

Rado

Thanks for your input bro!Can u kindly layout a sus cycle using hcg?

All The Best!

[ROCKETW19]

Rocketw19
First cycle was 4 months ago:
1-12 test e 500mg/weekly
1-4 dbol 40mg/daily
1-10 deca 400mg/weekly

If I extend to 12 weeks with sustanon, isnt it too harsh?Or should I incorporate using 1000i.u of HCG everyweek?

Im planning on doing this 12 week now then I will add stanozolol,which will be like this...

1-12 sus 750mg/weekly
1-4 dbol 50mg/daily
5-10 stanozolol at 50mg/daily

Please tell me what you think of this,many thanks for your immediate response!

Rado

Thanks for your input bro!Can u kindly layout a sus cycle using hcg?

All The Best!

why would you think 12 weeks is to harsh when you just finnished a 12 weeker 4 months ago? are you thinking sust is some how different then test E?
your cycle is fine I would start the winny week 7
I personaly dont think you will need hcg on that cycle but if you do use it 250ius every 3 to 5 days should work

[ROCKETW19]

8wks is too short, I agree....I would run some HCG during cycle...Has worked great for me and not needed anything afterwards.

you dont run a pct? just so we dont argue lets say your test production is back up and running 100% after you last shot.
What are you gonna do about the estrogen rebound?

[ken69]

why would you think 12 weeks is to harsh when you just finnished a 12 weeker 4 months ago? are you thinking sust is some how different then test E?
your cycle is fine I would start the winny week 7
I personaly dont think you will need hcg on that cycle but if you do use it 250ius every 3 to 5 days should work

Thanks Rocketw19

Yes I just thought of it being harsh based from what I read on other forums, but as the saying goes "Test is test" :)

Thank u for your reply, appreciate it!

All The Best!

[ROCKETW19]

Thanks Rocketw19

Yes I just thought of it being harsh based from what I read on other forums, but as the saying goes "Test is test" :)

Thank u for your reply, appreciate it!

All The Best!

make sure you get back and tell us how it went

[hitmansb]

1. I agree with the others that said you need to run the sust longer...12 weeks would be ideal.

2. 50mg/day is too much dbol. I don't know too many people who don't saturate their receptors at 30mg/day. After a certain point, the only thing you're increasing is the side effects.

[al the chemist]

I agree with hitmansb...sust at 12 weeks would be better because you are doin 3x a week injections so you would reap all the benefits of sust(short and long term test) and I would recommend 35 mg/day of dbol, if you cant grow off of that your doing something wrong...oh and I would give your liver a break and take at least 3-4 weeks off an oral in the middle of the cycle and continue to run the winny a week after your last injection(hope you have your liver support ready), run it like week 10-13 or something...better safe than sorry

[ken69]

Hi Guys Thanks for all the concerns!

The other day I was looking at my testicles in the mirror (I normally do this whenever Im on AAS ), I noticed that it went smaller than the usual. Should I take HCG with my cycle at 500i.u's 2x a week to keep em up and running? Or am I just paranoid...

Thanks again in advance brothers!

[ken69]

Rocket

I just reviewed your replies, Ill use 250i.u's every 3 days...

Should I use it till the end of my cycle?

[ROCKETW19]

Rocket

I just reviewed your replies, Ill use 250i.u's every 3 days...

Should I use it till the end of my cycle?

Yep you will get a feel for when you need to use the HCG maybe you can go 4 or 5 day before needing another shot of HCG when on tren I need to use 500ius every 4 or so days. but regular test not so much.

I also keep running the hcg untill I start PCT

[ken69]

Brothers

I got 2 ampoules of HCG 2,000i.u's. Will start administration by tonight. Now Im on my second week ender of my cycle and starting to feel the Dbol to kick in (pumps and a little water retention) but my diet is spot on.

I am taking whey protein with 1 scoop of dextrose powder after workout, is this ok?

[ken69]

Got my hands on my HCG it was 5000i.u's (my bad), Ive added 5ml of bact water. Ill be using .5cc which is 500i.u E5D till the end of my cycle. Hope Im doing it right and I kept it in the fridge...