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  • #16
    The sust EOD vs once a week is a very old argument. Probably should research some articles and form your own opinion, i have done it both ways, and i have done ED sust shots and if there is any difference it is so minimal you would'nt even notice.

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    • #17
      Here http://www.superiormuscle.com/forums...sustanon-s-use

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      • #18
        Thanks man, I think I'll probably go with the twice a week approach since it's my fisrt cycle I don't wanna over do it.

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        • #19
          good call ^

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          • #20
            Originally posted by redback View Post
            The sust EOD vs once a week is a very old argument. Probably should research some articles and form your own opinion, i have done it both ways, and i have done ED sust shots and if there is any difference it is so minimal you would'nt even notice.
            Then why get sust if it dont work the way its suposed to? seems like a waste of cash to me?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
              Then why get sust if it dont work the way its suposed to? seems like a waste of cash to me?
              Well it's just what the guys I know are doin and it was available to me, I've had it for awhile, got it way before I started doin research and I'd hate to waste it completely, that would be a waste of gear and my money lol. I figure i'll do it and take it , see what's up and hopefully I'll see some gains but, if not I know to change it up for cycle #2. Thanks again for yer guys input once again it helps a lot. I do have another question tho....About the anavar I was originally thinkin I'd do 40 mg/ed from week 4-12 but, I talked to a buddy and he's saying bring that shit up to 80 mg/ed. What should I do? Maybe 60 mg/ed is good?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Canadian View Post
                Well it's just what the guys I know are doin and it was available to me, I've had it for awhile, got it way before I started doin research and I'd hate to waste it completely, that would be a waste of gear and my money lol. I figure i'll do it and take it , see what's up and hopefully I'll see some gains but, if not I know to change it up for cycle #2. Thanks again for yer guys input once again it helps a lot. I do have another question tho....About the anavar I was originally thinkin I'd do 40 mg/ed from week 4-12 but, I talked to a buddy and he's saying bring that shit up to 80 mg/ed. What should I do? Maybe 60 mg/ed is good?
                No bro your fine I was talking to redback! Even if you inject it 1 time per week you will still see gains no matter what.

                I think 60mgs on the var is plenty. Personaly I wouldnt even run it. I would see what the sust does all by its self. but nothing wrong with running it. Remember the sust will just be hitting full strength when you start your var so you might get confused what is doing what.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
                  No bro your fine I was talking to redback! Even if you inject it 1 time per week you will still see gains no matter what.

                  I think 60mgs on the var is plenty. Personaly I wouldnt even run it. I would see what the sust does all by its self. but nothing wrong with running it. Remember the sust will just be hitting full strength when you start your var so you might get confused what is doing what.
                  Ha Ha sorry bro thought you were talking to me, good point on the anavar sust combo, I might have to rethink that. Man I'm getting super pumped about this cycle, I just got back from the gym and just talking on this fourm makes me wanna go back already!! lol

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
                    Then why get sust if it dont work the way its suposed to? seems like a waste of cash to me?
                    What do you mean the way it is supposed to? How do you think it is supposed to work?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by redback View Post
                      What do you mean the way it is supposed to? How do you think it is supposed to work?
                      are you serious right now?

                      sust has 2 fast acting and 2 slow acting esters if you shoot it 1 time per week how are you gonna take "full" advantage of the fast esters? dont get me wrong it will still work but you are not using it to its fullest 1 time per week.

                      Would you do a prop cycle and shoot it 1 time per week? probably not then why use sust that way?
                      fast acting test in sust
                      prop 20-40mgs peaks for 2 days
                      prop P 40-60mgs peaks for 4 days
                      not sure on the mgs cuz I dont use that junk but thoes guesses are close.

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                      • #26
                        prop is 30 mgs and prop P is 60 mgs

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
                          are you serious right now?

                          sust has 2 fast acting and 2 slow acting esters if you shoot it 1 time per week how are you gonna take "full" advantage of the fast esters? dont get me wrong it will still work but you are not using it to its fullest 1 time per week.

                          Would you do a prop cycle and shoot it 1 time per week? probably not then why use sust that way?
                          fast acting test in sust
                          prop 20-40mgs peaks for 2 days
                          prop P 40-60mgs peaks for 4 days
                          not sure on the mgs cuz I dont use that junk but thoes guesses are close.
                          lol Rocket i know exactly what the esters involved are but it is a bit more complicated than your making out. Each ester is designed to be released one after the other, so by the time the prop has peaked the phenylpropionate is released.

                          The full esters are; Test prop 30mg
                          Test phenylpropionate 60mg
                          Test isocaproate 60mg
                          Test decanoate 100 mg

                          Its not a case of comparing it to prop. I have some info somewhere i am trying to dig up.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by redback View Post
                            lol Rocket i know exactly what the esters involved are but it is a bit more complicated than your making out. Each ester is designed to be released one after the other, so by the time the prop has peaked the phenylpropionate is released.
                            That is wrong bro there is no timed release test. the prop P dosnt wait 2 days then release. they all start the second they are injected the prop and prop P start at the same time its just the prop stops at 2 days and the P stops at 4 days while the other 2 keep going well over a week.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
                              That is wrong bro there is no timed release test. the prop P dosnt wait 2 days then release. they all start the second they are injected the prop and prop P start at the same time its just the prop stops at 2 days and the P stops at 4 days while the other 2 keep going well over a week.
                              Yes your right, they all start at the same time but the prop doesn't just drop off and then there is nothing left in your system, there is a "sustained" release.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by redback View Post
                                Yes your right, they all start at the same time but the prop doesn't just drop off and then there is nothing left in your system, there is a "sustained" release.
                                Yes bro you dont need to tell me I understand sust 100%
                                after 2 days you just lost 30mgs after 4 days you just lost 60 mgs more I know the other 160 are still there. then after 7 days start all over. talk about a roller coaster.
                                to get 100% use outta sust it has to be takin ever 2 days. if you took it 2 times per week I am sure no one would notice the difference but it wont be 100%
                                1 time per week just dont make sence to me blood levels would be all over.

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