Longest you ran an oral for??

[the art of war]

Any and all , whether you went drol for 8 weeks and then went to another etc... I'm curious to hear what you guys have done.

secondly: what if any supps for liv support did you take - and did you get bloodworks done.

I know a few guys who run orals throughout 12-16 week cycles, and do at least 2 cycles a year. Fairly high doses. Liver values always go up.. and then always go down.

Just looking for some honest answers fellas.

[lifterjaydawg]

I think the best liver support would be udca, also helps your cholesterol levels.

[ROCKETW19]

Any and all , whether you went drol for 8 weeks and then went to another etc... I'm curious to hear what you guys have done.

secondly: what if any supps for liv support did you take - and did you get bloodworks done.

I know a few guys who run orals throughout 12-16 week cycles, and do at least 2 cycles a year. Fairly high doses. Liver values always go up.. and then always go down.

Just looking for some honest answers fellas.

I belive 8 weeks before. but that was when I was young and dumb. I dont care what anyone says it has to effect ya when the values are up even if they come back down.
I dont even use that junk anymore I am in no rush for my cycle to kick in.

[Gator_Mclusky]

I did a couple 8 wk cycles when I was young. Ive only included an oral in maybe 5 cycles in 20 yrs.

I will be doing Anavar this cycle running it 8 wks......

I believe all orals arent created equal. Anavar is far less toxic than Anadrol for example....

gator

[jack tors]

8 weeks but not a good idea.
I think what really matters is the dosage not duration. how much of it your body has to process.

Dbol for example
6 weeks @25mg each day = 1050mg of Dianabol in total
10 weeks with weekends off @15mg each day = 750mg of Dianabol in total

Can you grow on a low dosage i have no idea

[CrankinSteiN]

8 weeks of drol at a pretty high dosage and I did get blood work done around week 7 and then again around week 14... Liver values were high around week 7 but back to normal around week 14...

[Bouncer]

let me brake down what you are really asking art.

"hey guys, since i love dbol so much i was thinking about running it a lot longer then i had planned".

once again, you would be making a terrible choice. bro your liver is not like the normal persons, you have already put it through hell. you like to say to yourself "my liver is a soldier" to make yourself feel better. its not, your liver is much weaker then the average now. you have been to that point where your liver had almost given up, the point in which you couldn't eat etc.. that fact that you are even taking dbol this soon after your liver issue pisses me off to be honest. and now your thinking about running it longer..

and liver protectants are almost worthless. they do nothing in the face of being pounded by 17-aa oral drugs.

you should absolutely be off the dbol after 4 weeks. no longer.

but like always, you are gonna do what you wanna do. but dont expect a tear from me when you are crying about liver failure and how you cant eat, cant train, and have lost 75 lbs..

[al the chemist]

crank what happens when liver damage occurs is that liver levels would near-normalize because the affected tissue of the liver would no longer produce the liver enzymes so after prolonged exposure the liver enzymes normalize anyway regardless

[Ashop]

Any and all , whether you went drol for 8 weeks and then went to another etc... I'm curious to hear what you guys have done.

secondly: what if any supps for liv support did you take - and did you get bloodworks done.

I know a few guys who run orals throughout 12-16 week cycles, and do at least 2 cycles a year. Fairly high doses. Liver values always go up.. and then always go down.

Just looking for some honest answers fellas.

Ive done some long ones in the pat and it was a mistake.
The MAX I would ever stay on the stronger orals like DBOL, ANADROL would be 8 wks. I also wouldnt do it without some type of liver support.

[the art of war]

let me brake down what you are really asking art.

"hey guys, since i love dbol so much i was thinking about running it a lot longer then i had planned".

once again, you would be making a terrible choice. bro your liver is not like the normal persons, you have already put it through hell. you like to say to yourself "my liver is a soldier" to make yourself feel better. its not, your liver is much weaker then the average now. you have been to that point where your liver had almost given up, the point in which you couldn't eat etc.. that fact that you are even taking dbol this soon after your liver issue pisses me off to be honest. and now your thinking about running it longer..

and liver protectants are almost worthless. they do nothing in the face of being pounded by 17-aa oral drugs.

you should absolutely be off the dbol after 4 weeks. no longer.

but like always, you are gonna do what you wanna do. but dont expect a tear from me when you are crying about liver failure and how you cant eat, cant train, and have lost 75 lbs..

half of what you are saying is dead on bro - I had a viral infection in my liver and that's what caused all of that. Saying "my liver is a soldier" just beefin myself up, fair enough.

This post though was truly to try to find out how long others had ran / what they had ran / bloodworks / liver protectants etc.

Thought about it but not going to run it longer.

[CrankinSteiN]

crank what happens when liver damage occurs is that liver levels would near-normalize because the affected tissue of the liver would no longer produce the liver enzymes so after prolonged exposure the liver enzymes normalize anyway regardless

Really.... So if I stay on an oral long enough at any dose then my liver values will go back to normal after a while is that what you are saying.... If so then do you have some research to back that up that I can read because I would be interested to do so

[Bouncer]

Really.... So if I stay on an oral long enough at any dose then my liver values will go back to normal after a while is that what you are saying.... If so then do you have some research to back that up that I can read because I would be interested to do so

values may go back to normal but that wont mean your liver is in good shape. just means the dead parts of the liver are no longer reporting those high levels.

[Bouncer]

:retard:


If you have liver damage....your values will never go down past normal, they will always remain slightly elevated....As the liver repairs itself(and once again, this depends on the severity), values will go down B.

read again what al the chemist posted. that is what we are talking about.

read it slowly and 5 times over if you need to. :retard:

[Bouncer]

I read it....Just clarifying your stupid ass:retard: Come on....Turn it around on me...Waiting here patiently....lol

do you even understand what he was saying?

[Bouncer]

he is saying that after parts of the liver have been damaged so much it essentially stops producing enzymes because that part of the liver is basically dead. in other words, there are situations where blood back will come back normal because the dead parts of the liver tissue are no longer producing those high enzymes and thus not showing up on the test.