Liquid Tamox

[estone41]

I wanted to know if anyone can tell me what to do concerning an issue I have with my liquid Tamox separating. I received the product two days ago and all looked good. Yesterday, I noticed that the Tamoxifen had come out of solution and had settled in the bottom of the bottle. I looked up some blogs about it and was read that you should heat it up with hot water and shake. I also read that you can just shake it up without heating it. I know heat is a process they use to dissolve the drug in solution, but I am afraid that constant temperature spikes will denature the product, as it seems it would have to be done often. The JUST SHAKE IT thing has me concerned as well, because it looks like a suspension afterwards and the Tamoxifen crystals vary in size throughout the bottle which leads me to believe that the dose per mL would be anyone's guess. What should I do?

[estone41]

By the way, I also have a bottle of liquid Clomid that I purchased along with the liquid Tamoxifen. It seems to be holding up well, but is probably more soluble. The reason I purchased these products was to assist me in recovering from my (first cycle) of steroids. I am 41 and have been training naturally for almost 28 years. I consider myself to be in good condition for my age and have always enjoyed weight training, etc. The temptation of steroids has always been there for me and a little over 8 weeks ago, I gave in. Unfortunately, I did not use my head and research the proper usage, PCT, etc. Like an idiot, I just went with the advice of a "friend" and ran two bottles of Trenbolone Acetate only, for 6 weeks. I found out later that I should have at least stacked Testosterone with it and made sure I had a good PCT planned out. Clomid, Novaldex, HCG, Aromasin, etc. were no where to be found in the conversations I had prior to using this. I know it's my mistake, but I would like to make sure it's corrected and I have a chance to go round two. The original course looked like this: Trenbolone Acetate @ 75mg EOD for 4 weeks, tapering to 37.5mg EOD for 2 weeks to wean off. My PCT was delayed, but acquired 9 days after my last injection. I have been using Clomid @ 50mg ED and Tamoxifen @ 20mg ED for 4 days now. I did a small loading dose of 100mg Clomid and 40mg Tamoxifen on the first day and plan to run it 6 weeks @ 50mg and 20mg ED respectively. The Tren sides were intense. Night sweats, high blood pressure, a bit of hair loss and an emotional roller-coaster that has been a f****** nightmare. I've been off now for 2 weeks and have started to level out, but I want to keep progressing towards the END. I truly hope that I get back up to speed before very long and have a chance to ready myself properly for another go with some other compounds.

[ROCKETW19]

Nolvadex 40mgs clomid 100mgs ED for 2 weeks
nolvadex 20mgs clomid 50mgs ED for 2 more weeks
nolvadex 20 mgs ED 1 last week
total of 5 weeks.

Shake the shit outta the nolva and clomid everytime before use. It it starts to crash put it in warm watter and shake that is fine.

[estone41]

I appreciate it brother. Just wanted to make sure I was going to get the proper action out of these two compounds. It would be okay to start the higher dose of 100mg Clomid and 40 mg Tamoxifen on the 5 day and follow through with your suggested schedule, right? Have been using it for only 2 days at the lower dose. When this levels out, I will definitely have more questions in regard to cycling, as I want to do so in another 2 months.

[estone41]

Can you suggest a second and less harsh cycle to follow. I am interested in gaining only so much muscle, but am very interested in maintaining a very cut and vascular look.

Stats:
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Age: 41
Ht: 5'10
Wt:180
On cycle: 192
BF: 11%
No blood work yet, waiting for things to clear and "level out" before measuring and then going back "on". Will keep this up for future runs.

[Bouncer]

Can you suggest a second and less harsh cycle to follow. I am interested in gaining only so much muscle, but am very interested in maintaining a very cut and vascular look.

Stats:
_____
Age: 41
Ht: 5'10
Wt:180
On cycle: 192
BF: 11%
No blood work yet, waiting for things to clear and "level out" before measuring and then going back "on". Will keep this up for future runs.

Test, Primo, EQ.

[estone41]

That sounds cool. Man, I can hardly wait to get through this down period and start over fresh, with a new outlook and MUCH more knowledge. I'm glad I discovered the forums to help me out with gear, etc. The advice is very much appreciated. Thanks again. I read that Primo is a little steep in price, but Test/EQ were considered a good beginner stack. I may have done this once, but I am definitely a beginner. I hope you guys don't mind, but I will probably blow this up with more inquiries as things progress.

[ROCKETW19]

That sounds cool. Man, I can hardly wait to get through this down period and start over fresh, with a new outlook and MUCH more knowledge. I'm glad I discovered the forums to help me out with gear, etc. The advice is very much appreciated. Thanks again. I read that Primo is a little steep in price, but Test/EQ were considered a good beginner stack. I may have done this once, but I am definitely a beginner. I hope you guys don't mind, but I will probably blow this up with more inquiries as things progress.

thats what this place is for to help so ask away. But you can just read threw the pages and pages of info and questions already asked. Get a idea of what you want to know then come double check everthing with a few questions.

I agree Primo is to much cash and most of it is fake anyways.
Test E or C by its self is what I would do. the diet will get you that vascular cut look more than the drugs. The drugs just help

[ROCKILLER]

Test E or C by its self is what I would do. the diet will get you that vascular cut look more than the drugs. The drugs just help

I totally agree, search on the board for beginner or first cycles, you don't need to overdo it and go with a bunch of different compounds or high doses right off the bat. During the time waiting try to plan out your diet where you're adding more cals to gain muscle but keeping it clean. Your gains wont be as big but you wont gain much fat either.

[estone41]

Good advice. I always try to keep my diet in check, so that should not be too much of a problem. I will most definitely have a plan before I ever attempt to do anything else. Believe me, I learned a lot through trial and ERROR the last go around. Don't want to go this route, ever again. Shouldn't have been so difficult and probably would have been a much more enjoyable experience if I would have done then, what I'm doing now. I'm also a firm believer in the less is more theory when it comes to introducing your body to these compounds. Don't think I'll have to stress getting an IFBB Pro card. lol Thanks again.

[bigpapabuff]

I would also go with a more basic cycle or add one compound at a time, so you know how well your body reacts. And make sure to do a strong pct with clomid and nolva

clomid 70/35/35/35
nolva 40/20/20/20

[tonage]

Proviron and masteron would also be a good choice with test and eq for hardness since your bodyfat aint that high.