pct help, and no im not a newb. just to this site

[c_guns77]

hello all, as he title says im by no means a newbie, i just transfered from a different board as its not very active anymore.

i havent cycled in well over a year and decided its time again.

i ran previous cycles consisting of sus 250, andropen 275, dbol, mast and tren.
the bad thing is i never really followed through with good pct's which is why im here.

for my next cycle i will be running test 400 and boldabol

wk 1-10 400 mg test 400 split 1/2cc mon /thurs
wk 1-9) 400 mg boldabol split 1cc mon /thurs
contemplating front loading the eq

what i need help on is the pct. i have access to hcg clo and nolva

i was thinking like this

wk 13 100 clo/day
wk 14 50/day
wk 15 50/day

i want to use hcg through most of the cycle because i want a good recovery, id like to maintain as much size as possible, so i was thinking maybe 200iu 2x per week starting week 3 ending week 9?

all help is greatly appreciated guys

as for stats been lifting for 5 years, competitively for a year.
5'8" 178 and around 5-7 %bf im guessing

[tonage]

That looks good bro,and i would front load the EQ,other than that i would do it just like u but i dont use clomid anymore i use proviron instead.

[Bouncer]

I cant help much with hcg, never used it.

But I can say i think its a waist to use both nolv and clomid.

nolv and clomid are almost identical. nolv does a better job with less sides.

[ROCKETW19]

hello all, as he title says im by no means a newbie, i just transfered from a different board as its not very active anymore.

i havent cycled in well over a year and decided its time again.

i ran previous cycles consisting of sus 250, andropen 275, dbol, mast and tren.
the bad thing is i never really followed through with good pct's which is why im here.

for my next cycle i will be running test 400 and boldabol

wk 1-10 400 mg test 400 split 1/2cc mon /thurs
wk 1-9) 400 mg boldabol split 1cc mon /thurs
contemplating front loading the eq

what i need help on is the pct. i have access to hcg clo and nolva

i was thinking like this

wk 13 100 clo/day
wk 14 50/day
wk 15 50/day

i want to use hcg through most of the cycle because i want a good recovery, id like to maintain as much size as possible, so i was thinking maybe 200iu 2x per week starting week 3 ending week 9?

all help is greatly appreciated guys

as for stats been lifting for 5 years, competitively for a year.
5'8" 178 and around 5-7 %bf im guessing

9 weeks of EQ is not nearly enough yes you have to front load that or it will be a waiste. can you tell me how you plan to front load it?

PCT
you can use HCG I dont think you will need it for such a short cycle though. if you do use it 200ius 2Xs a week will be plenty

Nolva/clomid
50mgs/100mgs for 2 weeks
25mgs/50mgs for 2 more weeks
last week of just nolva at 25mgs for a total of 5 weeks

as bouncer said you probably dont need the clomid but I use it anyways

[c_guns77]

i'll probably just run nolv and hcg. as for the front load of the eq, i was just thinking for the first week instead of 400 mg eq id use 800 (1cc eq diluted with the 1/2cc test 400) on the first monday and thursday. and if you think that it will be a waste to run the eq only 9 weeks, then perhaps i will switch to tren. i dont get too much negatives on tren, besides the crazy night sweats. and thanks for the replys guys

[ROCKETW19]

i'll probably just run nolv and hcg. as for the front load of the eq, i was just thinking for the first week instead of 400 mg eq id use 800 (1cc eq diluted with the 1/2cc test 400) on the first monday and thursday. and if you think that it will be a waste to run the eq only 9 weeks, then perhaps i will switch to tren. i dont get too much negatives on tren, besides the crazy night sweats. and thanks for the replys guys

Ya for a shorth cycle and you know what tren does to ya I would say use tren instead. If you use the tren for sure use the HCG durring.

[bigscott]

hello all, as he title says im by no means a newbie, i just transfered from a different board as its not very active anymore.

i havent cycled in well over a year and decided its time again.

i ran previous cycles consisting of sus 250, andropen 275, dbol, mast and tren.
the bad thing is i never really followed through with good pct's which is why im here.

for my next cycle i will be running test 400 and boldabol

wk 1-10 400 mg test 400 split 1/2cc mon /thurs
wk 1-9) 400 mg boldabol split 1cc mon /thurs
contemplating front loading the eq

what i need help on is the pct. i have access to hcg clo and nolva

i was thinking like this

wk 13 100 clo/day
wk 14 50/day
wk 15 50/day

i want to use hcg through most of the cycle because i want a good recovery, id like to maintain as much size as possible, so i was thinking maybe 200iu 2x per week starting week 3 ending week 9?

all help is greatly appreciated guys

as for stats been lifting for 5 years, competitively for a year.
5'8" 178 and around 5-7 %bf im guessing

why such a short cycle ? 14 to 16 weeks is better imo .... you get the max out of the gear aslong as everything else such diet are in order

[c_guns77]

i've never cycled longer than 12 not really sure as to why, i just feel 4 months is too long

[Mr I]

I agree your logic, keep the leydig cells active by frequent small dose hcg but like Scott and Rocket have said your running slow esters there and I would go with 16 weeks. Starting the hcg at week three is right and starting pct at three weeks after your last shot is right too. In practice if nolva is enough to curb the sides on cycle you may as well run it right through and for pct and I'd do 4 weeks pct. Take evening primrose also it will help your respond better to the hcg and pct