Tren A/Sust/Winny

[Tarheelsuperfan]

Hey guys! Im new here and wanted to go ahead and dive right in. Im thinking my cycle will be somewhat like this:

Weeks 1-8 Tren A 75mg ED
Sust 250 500mg/week
Weeks 4-10 Winny 50mg EOD

Now, I hate to retain water and was wondering if A-dex would be a wise choice to run throughout my cycle. Ive never used it before but it seems to be a great help for others in terms of retaining water. Will this keep the retention down from the Sust?? And I was wondering about something to keep chances of gyno down, and also what you guys would suggest for PCT. I was thinking Clomid would suffice. Any and all help is greatly appreciated. Thanks alot in advance!!:thumup:

[Bouncer]

You could run low dose a-dex if you want.

Have you run tren before? Reason I ask is because you can get gyno from the tren and also a different type of gyno from the sust.

For PCT I like Nolv better then clomid.

[CrankinSteiN]

I agree watch for a different breed of gyno from the tren although it isn't as common....

I also agree that I am abigger fan of nolva for PCT then Clomid... Hate the harsh sides of clomid

[Tarheelsuperfan]

Yes, I have run a 6-week Tren/Prop combo and looooooved it. In terms of the gyno issue, is there anything I can run that will help keep it in check if it were to be an issue??

Also, have you guys used winstrol before? What can I expect from adding it to this cycle?? I have been an avid trainer and athlete for 15 years, so I have diet and training in check. im 5'9, 195lbs at about 7% BF. I stay pretty lean all year.

[ROCKETW19]

Hey guys! Im new here and wanted to go ahead and dive right in. Im thinking my cycle will be somewhat like this:

Weeks 1-8 Tren A 75mg ED
Sust 250 500mg/week
Weeks 4-10 Winny 50mg EOD

Now, I hate to retain water and was wondering if A-dex would be a wise choice to run throughout my cycle. Ive never used it before but it seems to be a great help for others in terms of retaining water. Will this keep the retention down from the Sust?? And I was wondering about something to keep chances of gyno down, and also what you guys would suggest for PCT. I was thinking Clomid would suffice. Any and all help is greatly appreciated. Thanks alot in advance!!:thumup:

is this your first cycle? reason I ask is you want a-dex to keep chance of gyno down. meaning you never ran test before or you would know????
I could help more with abit more info about yourself.
stats, age , how many cycles you have run , ect

[Bouncer]

Yes, I have run a 6-week Tren/Prop combo and looooooved it. In terms of the gyno issue, is there anything I can run that will help keep it in check if it were to be an issue??

Also, have you guys used winstrol before? What can I expect from adding it to this cycle?? I have been an avid trainer and athlete for 15 years, so I have diet and training in check. im 5'9, 195lbs at about 7% BF. I stay pretty lean all year.

for me winny = my joints feeling like i am 100 years old. hate it.

[Tarheelsuperfan]

Im 30 yrs old. Ive run two cycles in the past and they were both tren/prop. I didnt even consider AAS until i felt i had reached my genetic ceiling. I trained very hard and was a competitive powerlifter and collegiate athlete.

[Tarheelsuperfan]

Im getting confused on reading about Letro, Liquidex, and Nolva. I dont know which to choose. Should I just run Ldex during cycle to help stave off gyno and reduce bloat, then run Nolva for PCT??

[ROCKETW19]

Im getting confused on reading about Letro, Liquidex, and Nolva. I dont know which to choose. Should I just run Ldex during cycle to help stave off gyno and reduce bloat, then run Nolva for PCT??

Yes but if you didnt get gyno before dont run the ldex now. you need estrogen to grow along with other health things. If you had gyno symptoms on your other two cycles then yes I would run the Ldex. and nolva for PCT

[Tarheelsuperfan]

I did actually get small signs of gyno with the tren on my second cycle, so I want to be cautious, plus I hate water weight. But I also know i dont want to totally shut estrogen out since it does have some anabolic properties. This is why I was thinking ldex instead of letro. Supposedly letro totally shuts down any aromitization

[ROCKETW19]

I did actually get small signs of gyno with the tren on my second cycle, so I want to be cautious, plus I hate water weight. But I also know i dont want to totally shut estrogen out since it does have some anabolic properties. This is why I was thinking ldex instead of letro. Supposedly letro totally shuts down any aromitization

Ldex will pretty much stop it in its tracks also. the Ldex wont help with gyno if its from the tren. you will need caber or lower your dose just a bit. I usally just lower my dose over taking more drugs.

[Tarheelsuperfan]

Thanks guys for your advice. Rocket, would I be able to kill 2 birds with 1 stone with letro?? i.e. gyno and water retention??

[ROCKETW19]

Thanks guys for your advice. Rocket, would I be able to kill 2 birds with 1 stone with letro?? i.e. gyno and water retention??

for sure that will take care of both no problem. do some research on the doses though.