I can't for the life of my get cut...

[bigscott]

I had blood work done and it said all was normal according to my doctor. In response to the holding fat / estro level thing...I am hairy...and I just assumed that meant I had MORE test than normal??

What type of good thermo/non test would you suggest?

did you just get basic bloodwork or did you go to a endo doc and get a full blood panel ? big difference

[Bouncer]

did you just get basic bloodwork or did you go to a endo doc and get a full blood panel ? big difference

yea thats what i want to know. the basic blood work you get from the doc does not test hormone levels. you have to ask for it specifically.

[Bouncer]

:agreed:

And it sucks too

you just eat to much fast food you fat shit. :retard:

[Scrumhalf]

I didn't read all of your post but imo if you can't get cut without anabolic's your not gonna get cut with them. Either your not doing enough cardio or your eating too many cals or both. I could put you through a 3 hour a day boxing routine and i garantee you will be cut in 6 weeks. Your not doing enough.

Word.

Anyone who cannot get under 10% without thermogenics isn't trying hard enough.

[DE-CLEATER]

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