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[GrowthMan]

Come on dude, you really need to post in 2 threads linking to the pics?

Nope. I can delete them.

[Bouncer]

Come on dude, you really need to post in 2 threads linking to the pics?

[GrowthMan]

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[GrowthMan]

As the show drew nearer the supps switched to:

6 weeks out

Prop: 100mg eod
Tren: 100mg eod
EQ: 100mg eod which was later switched to Masteron at 100mg eod (4 wks).
Var: 40mg ed 20mg AM, 20mg PM
GH: 6-7iu ed
Arimidex: 1mg ed
40-60mcg clen/day (surprisingly conservative huh?)
T3 up/down (low dose as well). The coach said too much would eat muscle.

As far as the retics went we ran Aldactone T-Fri.
Clen stopped on Wed. (4 days out)
Monday (5 days out) was the last shot.

[Bouncer]

p.s. there is no real benefit to be running shit like deca or anadrol right up until a show so you wouldnt want to.

but you certainly do not have to come off something like EQ, Prop, Tren, etc.. any water you are holding from those drugs can easily be taken care of with what we talked about above.

[Bouncer]

False. Water is controlled by your water intake, food, sodium, and the types of drug you take. Diuretics is only good for the last bit of water you have leftover that you need to loose, if you are taking deca I don't care how much diuretic you take it's not gonna do shit excep to kill you.

false, you can take any kind of steroid right up until a show as long as you have the diuretic timing correct.

as far as the food, sodium, and water intake. i thought that was obvious.

[wnabeabeast]

water in controlled by diuretics.

False. Water is controlled by your water intake, food, sodium, and the types of drug you take. Diuretics is only good for the last bit of water you have leftover that you need to loose, if you are taking deca I don't care how much diuretic you take it's not gonna do shit excep to kill you.

[Bouncer]

EQ makes me retain a little water I take eq and gh out two weeks before the show but I do keep masteron and everything else.

water in controlled by diuretics.

[GrowthMan]

I'd like more feedback, too. Most local guys talk about dropping everything 1-2 weeks out. I run it all as long as I can.

[wnabeabeast]

why would you take out eq at 2 weeks out ? i run all supps right to the day i put on first coat of protan ,, orals right to show day

EQ makes me retain a little water I take eq and gh out two weeks before the show but I do keep masteron and everything else.

[bigscott]

You should start the EQ asap because it takes about four weeks to kick in so by the time it kicks in it's almost time to take it out which is about 2 weeks out of the show plus you still have to deal with the water you gained from deca so I say make the change now and save yourself a headache later. :)

why would you take out eq at 2 weeks out ? i run all supps right to the day i put on first coat of protan ,, orals right to show day

[wnabeabeast]

No doubt, my increase in weight is water weight. We're switching out the deca for EQ in about 4 weeks at 8 weeks out.

You should start the EQ asap because it takes about four weeks to kick in so by the time it kicks in it's almost time to take it out which is about 2 weeks out of the show plus you still have to deal with the water you gained from deca so I say make the change now and save yourself a headache later. :)

[GrowthMan]

Why deca? it'll make you retain water which is not what you want 12 weeks out, and I can guarantee you that is why you went up from 215lbs 4% to 230lbs 5% bf.

I would mix your test with EQ and masteron. EQ makes me retain my size and density without the water bloat.

No doubt, my increase in weight is water weight. We're switching out the deca for EQ in about 4 weeks at 8 weeks out.

[wnabeabeast]

Why deca? it'll make you retain water which is not what you want 12 weeks out, and I can guarantee you that is why you went up from 215lbs 4% to 230lbs 5% bf.

I would mix your test with EQ and masteron. EQ makes me retain my size and density without the water bloat.

[GrowthMan]

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