To look athletic and fit what cycle?

[tavares]

Im going to start my first cycle. I think I have found a legit online source, and from doing my research and reading here , i see that test should be in every cycle, But as a newbie I dont want anything to harsh. I think im going to order some Var and test e. I want to look lean and defined Im currently 6'1 and 198pounds 32yrs old..any suggesstions. i dont want to start anything harsh or drastic

[Mr I]

test isn't harsh at all but it does cause bloat which to some extent can be mitigated with Aromatise inhibitors AI's such as extremesane.

I think you'd be better with test propionate and avanar and extremesane, propionate causes less water retention/bloat than test enanthate and with the var and AI you should see good strength and size increase while getting a harder look, subject to proper diet and excercise regimne.

[Bouncer]

its all about diet and training.

if you eat clean, train and do cardio you will achieve the look you want.

[tavares]

test isn't harsh at all but it does cause bloat which to some extent can be mitigated with Aromatise inhibitors AI's such as extremesane.

I think you'd be better with test propionate and avanar and extremesane, propionate causes less water retention/bloat than test enanthate and with the var and AI you should see good strength and size increase while getting a harder look, subject to proper diet and excercise regimne.

thanks ,,wouls adding boldenone be to much to add to that cycle?

[Better2Bbigger]

Newbi reply

I'm only on my second cycle but since you asked...
I was nervous starting also so I ran 250 mg test e every five days. It helped and I could def. Feel it after week 4. Really toned up and gained strength. A lot of people on here will say that's not enough but I was happy playing it safe for my first cycle. I'm now on my second and running 400mg test e e6d. Loving it butg still want morw of course...

[ROCKETW19]

thanks ,,wouls adding boldenone be to much to add to that cycle?

Skip the var and run the Bold (EQ) EQ is a very safe drug. but since it is your first cycle i would just run test for 12 -16 weeks

side note I used to love EQ one of my favorite drugs but needs to be run 600mgs or more.

[edvedr]

i agree with Rocket & Bouncer. 1st cycle I would do test only and really focus on diet and training. especially when wanting to be lean diet is everything.

[the art of war]

test is best - bold I'm with rocket, ob test , tren , eq - seem to respond best too. I want to check deca / dbol but man I love the other combo.

Keep it basic first run , if you are looking for a lean athetlic look reality is sure, longer ester ill bloat you some - but even on prop it's ALL diet and dedication brother.

[tavares]

I'm only on my second cycle but since you asked...
I was nervous starting also so I ran 250 mg test e every five days. It helped and I could def. Feel it after week 4. Really toned up and gained strength. A lot of people on here will say that's not enough but I was happy playing it safe for my first cycle. I'm now on my second and running 400mg test e e6d. Loving it butg still want morw of course...

did you get noticable bloat, or just slight water retention?

[the art of war]

^just keep nolva on hand - dont run anti - e - i learned hard way steals your gains , keep what you need on hand and deal with a lil balloon look (even tho at 250mg you arent about to bloat up)

[ROCKETW19]

^just keep nolva on hand - dont run anti - e - i learned hard way steals your gains , keep what you need on hand and deal with a lil balloon look (even tho at 250mg you arent about to bloat up)

Nolva wont help with bloat bro. You would need a AI like L-dex, letro, ect
first cycle is best I personaly wouldnt take a chance on 250mgs Id go 400-500
but that is just me.

[ROCKETW19]

did you get noticable bloat, or just slight water retention?

you can control bloat pretty good with diet. what did you decide to run?

[liftsiron]

its all about diet and training.

if you eat clean, train and do cardio you will achieve the look you want.

Amen brother!!!!!!!

[tavares]

you can control bloat pretty good with diet. what did you decide to run?

I wanted to do test p ,primo and anavar..but source was all out of test p..so im going with test e, eq ,and to build collagen some anavar.. is this a good start?

[ROCKILLER]

I wouldnt bother with the EQ or the var for your first cycle.

Run the test alone and find out how it effects you. That way next time when you add in EQ or Deca or Dbol or var you will know what they are adding.

What of you take test and EQ right off the bat and get some weird side effect, you wont know where it came from.