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  • #16
    FUKIN TOP DRAWER AVATAR BOUNCER!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Mr incredible View Post
      FUKIN TOP DRAWER AVATAR BOUNCER!!!!!!!!!!!
      him and thatcher are the only 2 people worth a damn from your country. :weights:

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      • #18
        So this is what I will be runnin;

        CJC-1295- WED AND SUNDAY=250mcg =total 500mcg
        PEG-MGF - MON AND THURSDAY=250mcg= total 500mcg
        GHRP-2 - 400MCG EVERY DAY, ONCE A DAY.
        400mcg T4

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        • #19
          mr, incred. read my thread about GHRP, the most your body can use at 1 time is 100mcg. that is the saturation point.

          if you want to use 400mcg you need to shoot it 4 separate times.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Mr incredible View Post
            So this is what I will be runnin;

            CJC-1295- WED AND SUNDAY=250mcg =total 500mcg
            PEG-MGF - MON AND THURSDAY=250mcg= total 500mcg
            GHRP-2 - 400MCG EVERY DAY, ONCE A DAY.
            400mcg T4
            400mcgs of T-3 are you nutz bro why.

            LOL edit its T-4 my bad

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            • #21
              Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
              400mcgs of T-3 are you nutz bro why.

              LOL edit its T-4 my bad
              yeah I don't use T3, made me feel like shit and stripped muscle, T4 will be used due the the high IGF GH amounts so as to get the best from them.

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              • #22
                More good info on GHRP's

                GHRP-6, GHRP-2 and Hexarelin are all interchangeable. They are treated as interchangeable in the studies. They work via the same mode of action. Their slight differences are probably attributable to the different "batches" of non-pituitary neurons they excite. One peptide may excite one "batch" more or less than another.

                Hexarelin is the strongest of the GHS peptides. It also induces higher amounts of cortisol & prolactin then the other peptides. It may (according to one comparison study) desensitize quicker. GHRP-2 is a little less strong with less impact on cortisol & prolactin. GHRP-6 has very little impact on cortisol & prolactin (although it is a little elevated above 1mcg/kg dosing) and is a little less stronger than GHRP-2.

                So you could choose whichever is cheaper. I know GHRP-6 & GHRP-2 cost the same to make. However GHRP-6 at the moment at retail level is a lot cheaper...

                There is no direct benefit to combining GHRPs because they all act through the same mode of action. You just choose one and run it from the saturation dose of 100mcg up to the maximally beneficial dose (which would be 300mcg - 400mcg) at each administration.

                I know on the web you see old posts where people talk about the positive effect of combining Hex & GHRP-6. Thats just incorrect. What you do is make a decision on how much GHS you want to run and then choose among the GHS (GHRP-2, GHRP-6, Hexarelin, Ipamorelin). If you choose to use 300mcg you could use half (150mcg) of GHRP-2 and half GHRP-6 OR use Hexarelin , GHRP-2, GHRP-6 in equal thirds to fill that 300mcg dose slot.

                However there is no synergy between these GHRPs and no advantage to dosing in total above 300 - 400mcg.

                The GHRPs (GHRP-6, etc.) should ALWAYS be dosed at bed if you can (if you miss a dose no big deal). Depending on what study you read upto 85% of GH release in males occurs in that night-time (just after you fall asleep) pulse/spike. A dose of GHRP-6 of any amount will amplify that pulse which will give you more GH for the night. Looking at the study charts it appears that the pulse ends up being 2x to 6x higher than normal. Optimal dosage is 100mcg upto 300mcg - 400mcg. I've experimented with all doses and found 100mcg to be just fine BUT I do notice even deeper sleep at 200 & 300mcg dosing.

                Keep in mind that glucose and fatty acids blunt (but don't eliminate) GHRPs induced GH release. The peak of the pulse occurs 30 minutes after dosing GHRPs so optimally take the dose on an empty stomach and wait 30 minutes before eating. This doesn't have to be exact...just the way to maxamize the pulse secretion. GHRPs can be analogized to a non-estered testosterone such as Test-suspension. You take it...you get the effect...then its gone.

                CJC-1295 on the other hand is long-lasting. Most people are dosing it twice per week... That means no matter where you are or what you're doing throughout the week you have elevated levels of GH in your body. CJC-1295 can be analogized to a longer-estered testosterone such as enanthate.

                Most are dosing it at 2mg per week split in two doses because that is what the CJC study in humans used (actually close to the mimimal dose of that study) and because these are bodybuilders tring to maxamize GH. But IF they used GHRP-6 a few times a day they could get an even higher amount of GH release or....

                ...if you are a 42 year old guy like me...and you understand that CJC-1295 = GHRH...and 100mcg of GHRH combined with 100-300mcg of GHRP-6 is hugely synergetic...and you are only trying to achieve a really good GH level then you experiment. It is now very well established throughout a body of research spanning more than a decade that includes more than thirty studies in humans that there is huge synergy in vivo between Growth hormone releasing hormone (GHRH) (of which CJC-1295 is a long-lasting analog) and Growth hormone releasing peptides (GHRP-6, GHRP-2, Hexarelin, Ipamorelin).

                I experimented with just one dose of 100mcg CJC-1295 before bed...plus my 3x per day GHRP-6 dosing. I did this daily which meant 700mcg was used per week. That became my standard dosing scheme.

                However, for the last three weeks I have been on an anabolic cycle (test, t3, slin) and wanted high GH levels. So my dosing protocol has been 100mcg CJC-1295 3x per day and GHRP-6 (100mcg-200mcg) dosed with it 3 x per day. That equates to 2100mcg of CJC-1295. I am finding this to amount to a high level of GH & to be hugely synergistic w/ the test & slin.

                So my base level of GH stays elevated, IGF-1 stays elevated and when I add the GHRP-6 I induce a two hour amplified pulse of GH release which is great for growth. My dosing creates a pulse in the morning, post-work out and pre-bed.

                Emmortal:
                This question was asked:
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                How does PGH (tyric-6) fit in? Or would it fit in good at all?
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                I'm in a position to answer the question because I started with just pGH for about three months. My sleep was awesome and after three months I KNEW that my growth hormone levels had a subtle bump up thanks to gaba/gabob. I just looked in the mirror and realized I felt a lot better. Someone once guesstimated that it gave a 1iu GH equivalent boost.

                Then I ran GHRP-6 by itself for a couple of months and I felt that my body had a much larger bump in GH levels as a result...more along the lines of a 3iu GH equivalent. These numbers don't mean anything by-the-way I am just using them for a relative comparison. [3 to 1... 4 to 1]

                I took a one week break from GHRP-6 and just used the pGH. I felt subjectively that it wasn't as effective.

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                • #23
                  So you're wrong B in the case of ghrp 2? That study says it should be taken at night once and I've heard saturation occurs less quick with ghrp 2 than ghrp 6 meaning you can take more and get more benefits

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                  • #24
                    Why does the guy above say that cjc is long acting and analogous to enanth and that most take it twice a week, theen he says he shoots it 3 x a day WTF?

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                    • #25
                      bottom line the shit comes from china. what is any good that comes from china these days?

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                      • #26
                        Well according to bigscott his shit works

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                        • #27
                          Ive read in some other forums about Datbtrue as a peptide guru, his pretty knowledgeable about it...

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Mr incredible View Post
                            So you're wrong B in the case of ghrp 2? That study says it should be taken at night once and I've heard saturation occurs less quick with ghrp 2 than ghrp 6 meaning you can take more and get more benefits
                            Originally posted by Mr incredible View Post
                            Why does the guy above say that cjc is long acting and analogous to enanth and that most take it twice a week, theen he says he shoots it 3 x a day WTF?
                            you need to read slower sometimes. lol. ghrp-2, ghrp-6 etc.. are almost identical. about the difference between cyp and enath. some slight differences but at the end of the day they are the same.

                            I dont think you understand what "saturation" means. its how much you can take in a single shot. the saturation point for all GHRP's in 1 shot is about 100mcg. the body will use all of that 100mcg in 1 dose. but if you say take 300mcg in 1 shot you body will only use around 150mcg. so in effect you would be waisting 50mcg of the product by shooting it all at once.

                            you would be much better off shooting 100 mcg in the morning, 100 mcg post workout, and 100mcg before bed.


                            as for the cjc, think about test enath. it lasts 3 weeks in the system but most do it once a week or even twice a week. he clearly talks about how he was experimenting with the cjc and ghrp combo.
                            Last edited by Bouncer; 08-18-10, 10:00 AM.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
                              bottom line the shit comes from china. what is any good that comes from china these days?
                              bro no disrespect but stay out of the thread if you have nothing worth a damn to say.

                              what comes from china?... how about all steroid powders that go into all UG labs products. the very same UG products that you use and say its great. the very same powders that everyone who makes there own test use and get great results.

                              once again, with respect, STFU. :retard:

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                              • #30
                                mr incred, read this post again very slowly. :P

                                http://www.superiormuscle.com/forums/542298-post3.html

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