Which is better?!

[ken69]

I am really torn on how to use the following, kindly share your ideas guru's...

1-4 Test Prop 100mg EOD/Dbol 25mg ED
1-16 Eq 400mg every week (frontload first week to 800mg)
5-16 Sust 500mg every week
9-16 Tren A 75-100mg EOD

Or should I use Sus first and save the Prop and use it on the last 4 weeks of my cycle?

Thanks so much guys!

[Bouncer]

Sust all the way through, dbol the first 4 weeks, eq all the way through, tren all the way through, hold off on the prop.

[the art of war]

tren should be 1-7 if you have that amount (as stated weeks 9-16) - by then your EQ is kicking in full drive.

[ROCKETW19]

I am really torn on how to use the following, kindly share your ideas guru's...

1-4 Test Prop 100mg EOD/Dbol 25mg ED
1-16 Eq 400mg every week (frontload first week to 800mg)
5-16 Sust 500mg every week
9-16 Tren A 75-100mg EOD

Or should I use Sus first and save the Prop and use it on the last 4 weeks of my cycle?

Thanks so much guys!

3 replys and 3 different anwsers sorry

skip the prop all together the sust already has it. If you have to use it use it at the end but not needed IMO.

front load the first 2 weeks of EQ cuz it takes longer to clear at the end of cycle you should stop at 15 weeks with EQ

sust 1-16 weeks

tren I wouldnt end my cycle on tren that stuff shuts me down hard i like to run my test longer than the tren to give it a chance to totaly clear and start to recover. Id probably start the tren around week 7

I might even run HCG with that cycle and for sure wait 3 weeks after last shot of sust before starting PCT

[the art of war]

Actually while I think about it - dbol 1-4 , tren A 3-10 would be my preferred route. Just the ol 2ccs good luck brother.

[ken69]

Bouncer
I was under the impression that Prop will be kicking in fully by the end of 4th week and since Sus has 30mg of Prop in it , it will drop a bit and maintain stability of Prop ester in my blood levels before the rest of the esters kicks in (as per using the roid calculator)...
Just wanted to ask this question for my personal and better understanding of the following compounds.

And if i use Prop by the end of my cycle, would it be better as I have read through modern usage of AAS that its easier to recover if we end our cycle with short estered drugs?

Art of War
Isnt it ideal to use Tren A with Eq by weeks 9-16? As Eq starts to kick by week 10? As for my understanding Eq will give lean and vascular results and Tren A will give that hard massive look and density. Correct me if Im wrong brothers.

Thanks guys! Hope Im making sense with my questions (",)

Still learning this game!

[Bouncer]

In my opinion you are making things to complicated.

If it were me my cycle would look like this:

Sust Weeks 1-16
EQ Weeks 1-16
Tren Week 1-16
Dbol weeks 1-4

Nolvadex starts 3 weeks after last shot of test eq and tren. 40mgs per day for a month then 20mgs for another month.

that is how i would run it.

[ROCKETW19]

Bouncer
I was under the impression that Prop will be kicking in fully by the end of 4th week and since Sus has 30mg of Prop in it , it will drop a bit and maintain stability of Prop ester in my blood levels before the rest of the esters kicks in (as per using the roid calculator)...
Just wanted to ask this question for my personal and better understanding of the following compounds.

And if i use Prop by the end of my cycle, would it be better as I have read through modern usage of AAS that its easier to recover if we end our cycle with short estered drugs?

Art of War
Isnt it ideal to use Tren A with Eq by weeks 9-16? As Eq starts to kick by week 10? As for my understanding Eq will give lean and vascular results and Tren A will give that hard massive look and density. Correct me if Im wrong brothers.

Thanks guys! Hope Im making sense with my questions (",)

Still learning this game!

man were to start lets start with prop first it will not take 4 weeks for it to kick in. prop is 2 days. so if anything you would start the prop and sust same time if you want the shit to hit you fast. but going 4 weeks prop then switching to sust is not what you want. if you are after stable blood levels you should of got test E or C it much easyer with thoes.

taking the prop at end of cycle is easyer to recover cuz you dont have the steroid still hanging around in ya while you are taking PCT. Or you can just wait untill the gear clears then start PCT.

EQ does not kick in at week 10 it kicks in at week 4

test , tren , EQ one of my best cycles ever

[ROCKETW19]

In my opinion you are making things to complicated.

If it were me my cycle would look like this:

Sust Weeks 1-16
EQ Weeks 1-16
Tren Week 1-16
Dbol weeks 1-4

Nolvadex starts 3 weeks after last shot of test eq and tren. 40mgs per day for a month then 20mgs for another month.

that is how i would run it.

I would say this is ok only cuz he has you on a long pct but 16 weeks of tren i would for sure use HCG but that is just me I know what that shit does to me.

[Bouncer]

I would say this is ok only cuz he has you on a long pct but 16 weeks of tren i would for sure use HCG but that is just me I know what that shit does to me.

well i would never use tren in the first place. maybe i should have said that. lol

[the art of war]

well i would never use tren in the first place. maybe i should have said that. lol

for real - "no tren!! just run it for 16 weeks when you do :rofl: " - knew you were full of it !

ken - I was simply thinking linear time line - what you says makes perfect sense w/the EQ stack. I am all for running tren for awhile...so I say go for full nut.

[ken69]

Thanks Guys!

My guess is that to use the compounds depending on how our body responds to it "one mans trash could be another mans wealth", got all your inputs and very informative so I came into this conclusion to cycle in this manner.

1-4 Dbol 25mgs ED
1-16 Sus at 500mgs/week
1-14 EQ 400mgs/week (frontloading first 2 weeks at 800mgs/week)
7-14 Tren A 75mg/EOD
HCG 500i.u every Sunday till last injection of Sus

21 days after will start PCT
Clomid
300mg day 1
100mg 3 days
50mg for 1 week

Nolvadex
40mg for 1 week
30mg for 1 week
20mg for 1 week

Peptides
GHRP2+CJC1295 @ 100mcg each (3x a day protocol)

Will start next week as im going for my bloodwork tomorrow.

Thanks gurus! You guys rock!!!

[ROCKETW19]

Thanks Guys!

My guess is that to use the compounds depending on how our body responds to it "one mans trash could be another mans wealth", got all your inputs and very informative so I came into this conclusion to cycle in this manner.

1-4 Dbol 25mgs ED
1-16 Sus at 500mgs/week
1-14 EQ 400mgs/week (frontloading first 2 weeks at 800mgs/week)
7-14 Tren A 75mg/EOD
HCG 500i.u every Sunday till last injection of Sus

21 days after will start PCT
Clomid
300mg day 1
100mg 3 days
50mg for 1 week

Nolvadex
40mg for 1 week
30mg for 1 week
20mg for 1 week

Peptides
GHRP2+CJC1295 @ 100mcg each (3x a day protocol)

Will start next week as im going for my bloodwork tomorrow.

Thanks gurus! You guys rock!!!

my guess is you will only need the hcg when you start the tren and Id run it up to pct. I would also add a few more weeks of the nolva.