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    Thinking about doing a 8 week cycle of test 400, 2cc per week. Can i just take the test or do i have to take other drugs with it? Also im not a big fan of needles, is there an oral steroid i can take that wont kill my liver? Any help would be greatly appreciated

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    Everyone is gonna say post up your stats and diet so go ahead and do it. You can usually run test alone but you can run other stuff to kick start it.

    There is no oral steroid that wont destroy your liver. So if you hate needles you may not want to even bother running a cycle.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by new2it View Post
      Thinking about doing a 8 week cycle of test 400, 2cc per week. Can i just take the test or do i have to take other drugs with it? Also im not a big fan of needles, is there an oral steroid i can take that wont kill my liver? Any help would be greatly appreciated
      test 400 = 400mg / ml = 1cc = 400mg

      so 8 weeks 2 ccs a week = 800mg week 1-8

      first - that's too short to really benefit

      second - going out on a limb and guessing you haven't run many / any AAS before.

      So: Take the test 400, save it until you are not afraid of needles because it's the only way you are going to take steroids and not be hard on your liver minus primobolan (but the oral absorption rate is shit all compared).

      In the mean time - stats on you / previous cycles / goals for this run

      good luck bro.

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      • #4
        800 mg is a lot of test and IMO nobody needs that much.Maybe a Pro but in there case theyve ran so much they cant get results with less. Plus T400 gonna hurt like a bitch.Get some sterile grape oil and cut it. You can get sterile oil from ne one who sells conversion kits.

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        • #5
          my stats!

          Im 6ft even 192lbs with abt 11% bf. My diet is pretty simple 3200 calories a day. Lots of chicken tuna and veggies, with a cytogainer shake everother meal. Im been lifting for abt 8 years and have made significant gains. I started at abt 150lbs, trying to gain more mass! I would realistically like to get up 2 abt 215lbs. Never tried steroids but i can get over my fear of the needle

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          • #6
            LOL i dont like a dr to give me one.Hell im like let me do it.Them bastards think dartboard it in ,i do it slow and painless

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            • #7
              Test alone is fine for a cycle.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by new2it View Post
                Thinking about doing a 8 week cycle of test 400, 2cc per week. Can i just take the test or do i have to take other drugs with it? Also im not a big fan of needles, is there an oral steroid i can take that wont kill my liver? Any help would be greatly appreciated
                I would definitely use an anti e or AI to control any estrogen related sides.
                800mg per wk is a moderate dosage,,you will need it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by the art of war View Post
                  test 400 = 400mg / ml = 1cc = 400mg

                  so 8 weeks 2 ccs a week = 800mg week 1-8

                  first - that's too short to really benefit

                  second - going out on a limb and guessing you haven't run many / any AAS before.

                  So: Take the test 400, save it until you are not afraid of needles because it's the only way you are going to take steroids and not be hard on your liver minus primobolan (but the oral absorption rate is shit all compared).

                  In the mean time - stats on you / previous cycles / goals for this run

                  good luck bro.

                  bump

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                  • #10
                    i did it!

                    Okay, so yesterday i took my first injectionof test 400 (2cc) im assuming its the real deal because my ass feels like i was an extra on the first season of OZ. Lol thanks for al of of the good suggestions,they really helped. Someone suggested that i take an anti e.do i alave to inject that?and will it hurt like the test did?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by new2it View Post
                      Okay, so yesterday i took my first injectionof test 400 (2cc) im assuming its the real deal because my ass feels like i was an extra on the first season of OZ. Lol thanks for al of of the good suggestions,they really helped. Someone suggested that i take an anti e.do i alave to inject that?and will it hurt like the test did?
                      Well you've preloaded by a lot of dosing standards - since 2cc will be 800mgs (again, mentioned this before). As for the real deal, absolutely no way to tell that until time tells. Your ass feeling like you were on an iron vacation while it worries me - certainly doesn't have anything to do with legit gear.

                      Alin pointed out the anti - e : my thought , if you are going to run 800mg, yea run arimidex w/it, use RUI-products.com - they have the banner up top here, board sponsor and very solid stuff. It will come with an oral syringe and you simply draw it out squirt it in your mouth and enjoy the taste of gasoline.

                      As for your shots hurting - cut it w/some cotton seed oil or b12 , those are only two I have on hand all the time so I use one or the other if I have supertest 450 which believe me is one burning shot.

                      Stop with the 2cc's unless you WANT 800mgs of test ... again good luck bro, I strongly recommend you continue to research what you are shooting into yourself. No offense - just for your own good. Get swole buddy.:weights:

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                      • #12
                        thanks!

                        I think i will cut back to 1cc per week, as far as the cotton seed oil and b12 goes how much should i cut a 1cc dose with?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by new2it View Post
                          I think i will cut back to 1cc per week, as far as the cotton seed oil and b12 goes how much should i cut a 1cc dose with?
                          good call brother - 800mgs is a whopping dose for first run.

                          I use 1cc of cotton seed oil w/supertest 450 - does fine for me , some do 1 1/2 ccs but depends on brand of gear you are running etc.

                          Good luck bro.

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                          • #14
                            you guys are awesome!

                            I really appreciate the help and feedback. You guys are really awesome! I think knowledge is the key to having a good understanding of anything, and you guys definetly have that, i'll keep you posted!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by new2it View Post
                              Thinking about doing a 8 week cycle of test 400, 2cc per week. Can i just take the test or do i have to take other drugs with it? Also im not a big fan of needles, is there an oral steroid i can take that wont kill my liver? Any help would be greatly appreciated
                              800/week is to much would do 400mg/week for 12 weeks with an AI and have a pct plan on hand and also how old are you?

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