HELP on my JOINTS & 2nd cycle

[Mastro Lindo]

Hello Big Guys!

Last August I just finished my 1st cycle.
1-4 month DBol 30mg
1-13 month T 350mg/week
13th month winnie 30mg/day

I added around 15 pounds and I have maintained half of it.
I added Winnie at the last month cause my belly got bigger during the cycle.
Winnie didn't help me loose fat.
I Have a good ectomorph body but I have around 15% bf and I have never had ripped abs.
I am very strong for my limits in comparison with others same type of body but I made 2 mistakes in these cycle
1) I added Winnie
2) 1 month after my cycle I did 1 week of a hard intense workout with a lot of weights.

Now ALL my joints( elbows, knees, Shoulders) are hurting a lot and are making always noises.
WHAT DO U SUGGEST? START A 2nd CYCLE and ADD DECA OR ....
I'm taking supplements like Glucosamine Chondroitin and omega 3,6,9

[Bouncer]

Fat is delt with by diet, not drugs. If you want abs clean up your diet.

For joints I would take test and deca and not train extremely heavy and instead focus on traning the muscle for pump and growth.

[Mastro Lindo]

Thank you a lot BOUNCER.

You're the one that helped me a lot since the beginning and also a ton others.
But what do you suggest in terms of doses, splits and hcg during or pct after cycle?

I'm 32 yrs old
5'8
187 pounds
15% bf

[Bouncer]

500mgs test per week
300-400mgs deca per week

Nolva for Pct start 3 weeks after last shot and run at 40mgs per day for 1 month.

[Mastro Lindo]

It's been 2 months and 10 days since I've finished my 1st cycle.
Should I have to wait more for starting this new one?

For now I'am doing a 2 weeks workout, consisting in very moderate weights with hi reps.
doing only quads ( my weakest bodypart )
only different flyes for chest
only different side &rear raises for delts in order to not stress my joints.

[Bouncer]

wait until it has been 3 months since you have been off then start the next cycle.

[Mastro Lindo]

Thank you B.

during this "waiting" period time for next cycle, what type of training and supplements do you suggest?

[Mastro Lindo]

Thank you B.

during this "waiting" period time for next cycle, what type of training and supplements do you suggest in order to recuperate more on the tendons and joints?

[Mastro Lindo]

Can sb suggest any training advice or supplements on this stage (the one mentioned above)?

[Mastro Lindo]

Any suggestion???

Come on guys, this forum is based on exchanging info!!!

[CrankinSteiN]

Shark cartalidge as well as glucosamine are good supplements for joint support...

[Bouncer]

Any suggestion???

Come on guys, this forum is based on exchanging info!!!

this is the steroid section, you want help with supps start a thread in the correct section.