First time use with Tren

[henry]

Hi guys,

Im completely new to steroids. I know people that have used them and I feel a single cycle will be enough to get me over this year long plateau ive been on.

My goal is to put on some size and muscle.

My stats are:

6ft 1
99.8 kgs
15% body fat.

My goal is to put on some more bulk and get some real cut definition.

So speaking to my friends in the gym and seeing their enormous results and doing some research for a while Ive decided to do a cycle of about 8 -10 weeks of test e and tren hex.

The recommended dosage by my mate was:

500mg of test e and 400mg of tren hex a week
taking armidex during the cycle and clomid as a pct.

i want to know your thoughts on such a high dose. ive read some conflicting ideas on forums.

i read some of The Bouncer's posts here and came to this conclusion.
250mg of test e and 200mg of tren hex a week
taking clomid as a pct and not using armidex during the cycle.

what does everyone think would be a better doseage and length of cycle??

i send my thanks in advance for all your tips and advice.

cheers

[Bouncer]

For a first cycle I would never run tern you may not react well to it and you won't know if it's the test or the tren.

Run 500mg of test per week for 12 weeks. Perfect first cycle.

[henry]

will that give me the goals im after test on its own? im trying to keep it at a single cycle.

[henry]

also sorry for the contstant questions.

if i solely do the test 500mg will i need to run nolva or armidex through the cycle?

[Bouncer]

You will get great results. Have nolva on hand incase gyno pops up

[henry]

awesome. yeah that what im the most scared off.

if i do experience it what do i do? do i follow your directions in your previous post for begininers and start with 20mg?

ive been reading that sus250 and test e produce quite the same result? would it be worth smashing 500mg of sus250?

[maged]

awesome. yeah that what im the most scared off.

if i do experience it what do i do? do i follow your directions in your previous post for begininers and start with 20mg?

ive been reading that sus250 and test e produce quite the same result? would it be worth smashing 500mg of sus250?

imo it will be better to just try test e 500mg/week, and try front loading it with 1000mg/week for the first week only

u can keep nolva in hand or take arimidex with a dose of 0.25mg/eod

[Ashop]

I think for you 1st cycle your not ready fro TREN. I would suggest a TEST only cycle.

[CrankinSteiN]

Indeed for a first cycle test alone will give you the results you are looking for while keeping the cycle cheap and uncomplicated. Nolva on hand is a must and have your PCT ready for when your done. I like Nolva only as a PCT but many guys still like a combo of nolva and clomid or just clomid...