Proper Estrogen Balance

[dago]

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Bouncer I been reading through a lot of your stuff lately and after reading the top link on letro I decided to use this while on upcoming cycle but am wondering now if I made the best choice here. I notice in the cycles posted for beginners you did not recommend letro while on cycle but nolvadex. But the letro article made a lot of sense too and seemed to me the better choice and use the nolva for pct after. I read were you said even 250 mg of test per week gave you gyno symptoms and I'm just trying to take the proper precautions here. I know that there is a balance of estrogen that need be maintained and that some estrogen is needed. I had planned on .5 mgs of letro per day while using just test only and then follow up with nolva after for pct. After more reading and research I am wondering if the letro will hinder my gains somewhat.

[ROCKETW19]

http://www.superiormuscle.com/forums...mara-letrozole

http://www.superiormuscle.com/forums...sics-beginners

Bouncer I been reading through a lot of your stuff lately and after reading the top link on letro I decided to use this while on upcoming cycle but am wondering now if I made the best choice here. I notice in the cycles posted for beginners you did not recommend letro while on cycle but nolvadex. But the letro article made a lot of sense too and seemed to me the better choice and use the nolva for pct after. I read were you said even 250 mg of test per week gave you gyno symptoms and I'm just trying to take the proper precautions here. I know that there is a balance of estrogen that need be maintained and that some estrogen is needed. I had planned on .5 mgs of letro per day while using just test only and then follow up with nolva after for pct. After more reading and research I am wondering if the letro will hinder my gains somewhat.

Yes it will Letro will stop production of estrogen. you need estrogen to grow.
Just cuz Bouncer gets gyno on low doses of test dont mean you will and i would bet you wont. People take way to many things just cuz and anti Es in my opinion are way over used.

have nolva on hand start your cycle of test if gyno symptoms pop up take nolva simple as that. there is no need to just in case take a powerfull drug like letro.

[Mr I]

Yup been there and done it, kills your libido if you kill your estrogen completely

[Mr I]

Yup been there and done it, kills your libido if you kill your estrogen completely

[jack tors]

the thought is more conversion of test instead of estrogen. some ppl do this while on...

arimidex 1mg (to high IMO) or .5 EoD or E3D
or
nolva 20mgs ED

i dont see anywhere that he said to use Letro??? sex drive is only part of it joint pain is a motherfucker drys you out.

A-dex at a dose of 1mg per day blocks 80% of the Aromatase enzyme(those studies are from breast cancer patients) ,so by using half of the dose your blocking 60% , and still have some estrogen in blood ....Letro is a 98% blocker so use very low dose

[CrankinSteiN]

Yes it will Letro will stop production of estrogen. you need estrogen to grow.
Just cuz Bouncer gets gyno on low doses of test dont mean you will and i would bet you wont. People take way to many things just cuz and anti Es in my opinion are way over used.

have nolva on hand start your cycle of test if gyno symptoms pop up take nolva simple as that. there is no need to just in case take a powerfull drug like letro.

Agree 100%! Too many ppl are taking anti-e's during there cycles and not only is there no real point but it also works against you not for you so they should only be added during cycle if needed to ward off gyno....

[jack tors]

from Anabolics 2009

Anti-Estrogens and the Athlete
So what does this all mean to the bodybuilder looking to gain optimal size? Basically I think it calls for a cautious approach to the use of estrogen maintenance drugs if mass is the key objective (things change, of course, if we are talking about cutting). Obviously, anti-estrogens should be used if there is a clear need for them due to the onset of estrogenic side effects, or at the very least, the drugs being administered should be substituted for nonestrogenic compounds. Gynecomastia is certainly an unwanted problem for the steroid user, as are noticeable fat mass gains. But if these problems have not presented themselves, the added estrogen due to a cycle of testosterone or Dianabol, for example, might indeed be aiding in the buildup of muscle mass, or keeping you energetic. An individual confident they will notice, or are not prone to getting, estrogenic side effects, may therefore want to hold off using estrogen maintenance drugs so as to achieve the maximum possible gains in tissue mass.

[jack tors]

while on cycle

Liver Support: Liver Stabil, Liv-52, or Essentiale Forte (label recommended dosage).
Cholesterol Support: Lipid Stabil (3 caps/day) and Fish Oil (4 g/day).
Estrogen Support: tamoxifen (20-40 mg/day) or anastrozole (.5-1 mg/day).


Dont use letro bro. You dont want to eliminate estrogen just want to watch the water retention, gyno, and bf.

[dago]

Thanks guys

[lowcashcowboy]

i have a ? on this; today my seat belt in my truck was rubbing my nip and i noticed it was really raw feeling. the best way i know how to describe is how your nip feels the day after you graze it with a razor.....is this anything to worry about? I don't notice any puffiness or soreness other than the raw feeling. I have been taking adex .05 EOD was going to move it to .05 E3D before i noticed this. Any advice would be preciated

[jack tors]

hard to day if it gets real itchy or sore i would up the dose of a-dex. if it doesnt thendont worries. i wouldn't decrease the dose till your sure... if it were me i would read it as they are "sensitive" meaning up the dose to ED. really can hurt you to up it.

[lowcashcowboy]

cool thanks bro, i was tryin to dose down the adex i kind of makes me feel a little crappy i think

[ROCKETW19]

cool thanks bro, i was tryin to dose down the adex i kind of makes me feel a little crappy i think

if you think you have gyno symptoms and dont like the adex. switch over to nolvadex you will probably feel better

[lowcashcowboy]

thanks rocket i actually do have nolva on hand was gonna use during pct; how would you dose it as a prevenative during cycle? i don't really want to use it the whole time if i don't have to

if you think you have gyno symptoms and dont like the adex. switch over to nolvadex you will probably feel better

[ROCKETW19]

thanks rocket i actually do have nolva on hand was gonna use during pct; how would you dose it as a prevenative during cycle? i don't really want to use it the whole time if i don't have to

good question on dosing as I dont need it so never used it but my guess would be 20mgs per day?????

nolvadex is more healthy for you than adex so if you are willing to take adex why not nolva? are you sure you have gyno poping up?