Shoulder pain mid cycle.

[dog.bite]

So I'm just a little past mid cycle and my shoulders are really starting to hurt. The other night the pain woke me at 2am. I'm taking 800mg of Motrin and piggy backing with Tylenol. The meds help, but the pain persists and I still have a ways to go to finish the cycle and I don't want to stop even after I'm done for fear of losing what I've gained. I have a good PCT planned, but I need some advice on what may help from experienced body builders or what direction I should take. Thanks.

[Bouncer]

what type of drug are you on? if you are on winny, stop. it will just get worse.

lay off flat bench for a few weeks or any other movement that gives you pain.

[ROCKETW19]

what type of drug are you on? if you are on winny, stop. it will just get worse.

lay off flat bench for a few weeks or any other movement that gives you pain.

could be alot of things

I never do flat bench anymore I will always cheat and use my shoulders and end up hurting them. True its mt fault with fourm but I see lots of people o it and lots of people get hurt from it.

could also be the winny. Not sure how long or the dose you are on?

could also be the way you sleep. I see this more than any of the others. People sleeping on the stomac and have the arm over their heads

could also be other ways you lift for sertain exersizes.

[jack tors]

there right...
tell us your cycle - test-e? winny?
do rotator cuff exercises, your chest is getting strong but your shoulder stabilizers arent
lay off military pressing along with heavy bb benching
drop the motrin/tylenol combo bro - use alieve (Naproxin) less harsh cuz you need less per day and it works better.
ice it 20mins at a time

[lowcashcowboy]

My shoulders have been f'ing killing me; don't even have to be excercising and they hurt....not sure if it is the adex or what.....been wanting to start some deca to try to help with this....but not sure about deca-dick......is this something that occurs during the cycle or after or what?? Can someone explain deca-dick a little for me?? I can't be havin no limp pecker

[dog.bite]

Not sure if you guys remember, but I started with Deca and ended with oral winny/anavar combo...no test cuz of logistical problems when I was home on leave. I only have about 2 1/2 weeks and I'll be done with the winny/ana.

@Bouncer: You're saying I should stop the winny/ana now and begin my PCT? Any chest or shoulder movement gives me pain. If I lay off, I won't be doing anything for those muscle groups. Ideas?

@Rocket: I can honestly say that my form is spot on. When I started training all those years ago, the guy who turned me on to it emphasized form more than anything, so I'm good there. I think it's the extra weight that I'm pushing since starting the gear. I'm on 40mg total of the winny with anavar in there, remember it's the win(20mg)/ana(10mg) combo, with one in the am and then pm. Like I said only about 2 1/2 weeks left on it and I've been on it for about 2 wks now (keeping it much shorter per your advise).

@Jack: Laying off of the flat bench and military...they are my meat and potatoes of those muscle groups, what replaces them if cut them out?

[dog.bite]

On a side note, my last Deca injection was two weeks ago at 300mg and I'm currently on 20mgwinny/10mg Anavar combo pill (2 a day, one am and one pm). I have Noval 20mg pills and 2000mg of HCG...what would be appropriate for PCT with what I have? Thanks.

[Bouncer]

Stop cycle and run nolv at 40mg for a month.

Take a break from chest and shoulders for a couple weeks. Better to take off a couple weeks then to really fuck something up and be out for months.

Winny is a garbage drug that basically makes cartilage brittle. Get off it now or it will get worse.

[dog.bite]

Will the Deca be out of my system to start the Noval now? What about the HCG?

[ROCKETW19]

Not sure if you guys remember, but I started with Deca and ended with oral winny/anavar combo...no test cuz of logistical problems when I was home on leave. I only have about 2 1/2 weeks and I'll be done with the winny/ana.

@Bouncer: You're saying I should stop the winny/ana now and begin my PCT? Any chest or shoulder movement gives me pain. If I lay off, I won't be doing anything for those muscle groups. Ideas?

@Rocket: I can honestly say that my form is spot on. When I started training all those years ago, the guy who turned me on to it emphasized form more than anything, so I'm good there. I think it's the extra weight that I'm pushing since starting the gear. I'm on 40mg total of the winny with anavar in there, remember it's the win(20mg)/ana(10mg) combo, with one in the am and then pm. Like I said only about 2 1/2 weeks left on it and I've been on it for about 2 wks now (keeping it much shorter per your advise).

@Jack: Laying off of the flat bench and military...they are my meat and potatoes of those muscle groups, what replaces them if cut them out?

Ok having good fourm is out but what about the way you sleep at night? do you sleep on your stomac with your arm or arms over your head?

[Bouncer]

Will the Deca be out of my system to start the Noval now? What about the HCG?

I never used hcg, to many sides. Run the nolv

[dog.bite]

@Rocket: no stomach sleeping, I really think it's the amount of weight I went up with the gear.

[dog.bite]

So if I lay off chest and shoulder right after the gear, how much gained weight do you think I will lose. What can I do to minimize any loss? What kind of sides go with the HCG?

[Bouncer]

Lay off the chest and shoulder now.

You shouldn't lose much, time off can be a good thing.

Just read up on hcg bro, raises estrogen levels etc..

[dog.bite]

Thanks Bouncer...will do.